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Hosted by Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan, fiction/non/fiction interprets current events through the lens of literature, and features conversations with writers of all stripes, from novelists and poets to journalists and essayists.

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    • S9 Ep. 18: Yi-Ling Liu on Internet Censorship in China and the U.S.

      S9 Ep. 18: Yi-Ling Liu on Internet Censorship in China and the U.S.
      Feb 19 2026
      Writer and editor Yi-Ling Liu joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and Jennifer Maritza McCauley to talk about state-controlled censorship. Liu, the author of a new book, The Wall Dancers: Searching for Freedom and Connection on the Chinese Internet, explores what it means to build community through the internet while contending with surveillance and suppression. Liu, Terrell, and McCauley discuss the sale of TikTok to U.S. companies, the growing online surveillance and censorship in the United States, and how American citizens can learn from Chinese “netizens” about how to survive under censorship. Liu tells the stories of four people– a renowned feminist, a gay dating app entrepreneur, an aspiring rapper, and a famous science fiction writer—who all found ways to dance around The Great Firewall and earn success for themselves and for their communities online. Liu details the widespread impact of each of these “wall dancers” and reflects on the inspirations that led them to foster social change through online media. Liu explores the importance of cultural exchange and connection online and considers her own personal experience with living and creating under censorship. Liu reads from The Wall Dancers.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Jennifer Maritza McCauley, V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell.Yi-Ling LiuThe Wall Dancers: Searching for Freedom and Connection on the Chinese InternetOthers “The Little Man at Chehaw Station” Ralph EllisonJourney to the Center of the Earth by Jules VerneWaste Tide by Chen Qiufan, trans. by Ken Liu The Three-Body Problem by Cixin Liu, trans. by Ken LiuSale of TikTok to U.S. Companies | PoliticoTikTok Censorship Investigation | Los Angeles TimesSale of NVIDIA Chips to China | Associated PressThe Great FirewallLü Pin on Feminist VoicesThe Feminist FiveThe Mitu Movement in ChinaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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      39 min
    • S9 Ep. 17 Eleanor Shearer on Migrants in Hiding and a Caribbean History of Canada

      S9 Ep. 17 Eleanor Shearer on Migrants in Hiding and a Caribbean History of Canada
      Feb 12 2026

      Novelist Eleanor Shearer joins co-hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss her new novel, Fireflies in Winter, which depicts the little-known history of how the Leeward Maroons of Jamaica—a free Black community descended from formerly enslaved Africans and indigenous people—came to Nova Scotia at the end of the 18th century. Shearer, who is British and has Caribbean ancestry, explains the genesis of her interest in the Maroons as an example of successful resistance to slavery, since they fought the British in Jamaica, but also a kind of collusion with it, as they captured and returned runaway slaves to plantations there. She reflects on the connections between her Black heroines’ precarious situation in historic Canada and the situation of immigrants in the U.S. and elsewhere today. She also considers her research process, depicting queer life in earlier periods, the importance of sensory and embodied detail in historical writing, and her choice to write about the past in the present tense. Shearer reads from Fireflies in Winter.

      To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/

      This podcast is produced by V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell.


      Eleanor Shearer

      • Fireflies in Winter
      • River Sing Me Home
      • ‘Rebranded plantations’: how empire shaped luxury Caribbean tourism | Slavery | The Guardian


      Others

      • Anne of Green Gables by L.M. Montgomery
      • Davos 2026: Special address by Mark Carney, PM of Canada | World Economic Forum
      • Prime Minister Carney delivers remarks at the World Economic Forum Annual Meeting
      • Black Loyalist Heritage Center, Nova Scotia
      • Carrefour Atlantic Emporium Bookstore
      • Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 8, Episode 22: Suzette Mayr and Kai Thomas on Canada Versus Trump


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      45 min
    • S9 Ep. 16 Anjali Enjeti on Ballots and How Trump Wants to Steal Them

      S9 Ep. 16 Anjali Enjeti on Ballots and How Trump Wants to Steal Them
      Feb 5 2026
      Award-winning journalist, activist, poll worker, and former attorney Anjali Enjeti discusses her new book, Ballot, which considers the real and metaphorical role that ballots play in our democracy. Co-hosts Whitney Terrell and Jennifer Maritza McCauley (in her first episode joining the co-host rotation) talk to Enjeti about her childhood encounters with ballots, the history of ballots in America, and the problems she encountered with Republican-installed Dominion voting machines in Fulton County, Georgia, where she was an election worker during the 2020 presidential race. She debunks the false claims of election fraud in Fulton County during that election and discusses the Trump Administration’s recent seizure of 700 boxes of 2020 ballots from Fulton County, what those ballots represent, and whether or not the administration might try to alter them. She reads from Ballot.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell.Anjali EnjetiBallotThe Parted EarthSouthbound: Essays on Identity, Inheritance, and Social ChangeOthersFiction/Non/Fiction Season 2, Episode 8: Lacy Johnson and Anjali Enjeti on the State of Reproductive RightsFBI raid in Georgia has little legal basis – but serves Trump’s goal to weaken trust in election results | The GuardianFBI’s Search of Fulton County, Georgia, Election Center Is Unprecedented, Experts Say | ProPublicaTrump is trying to change how the midterm elections are conducted | The Washington PostMove to Seize Ballots Thrusts F.B.I. Into Trump’s Election Conspiracy Claim | The New York TimesTrump’s Mug Shot Is Released After Booking at Fulton County Jail | The New York TimesNickel and Dimed: On (Not) Getting By in America by Barbara EhrenreichSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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      51 min
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