In this special episode, Courtney Moore, founder and president of Women & Work, and Courtney Powell, Director of Ministry Content, interview Dr. Arianna Molloy, author of our most recent book club read, Healthy Calling: From Toxic Burnout to Sustainable Work.

They cover topics with Arianna, such as:

• What is burnout?
• Why is it so prevalent, especially among those who feel called to something?
• What are the effects of burnout and the symptoms of chronic stress?
• What’s the first step to take for someone who is burned out?
• What if you can’t control the stressors in your personal life, but you still need to show up 100% for your work?
• Tell us the distinction between job, career, and calling.
• One effect of burnout is shame. Share with us what shame looks like when it comes to calling?
• How does humility fit with burnout?
• What’s the difference between humility and modesty?
• How do you make and maintain wise decisions regarding boundaries?
• What is one piece of advice you want to leave with women who are in a season of burnout?

Arianna Molloy (PhD, University of Denver) is associate professor of organizational communication at Biola University.Her research focuses on meaningful work, work as a calling, and the connection between humility and burnout in the workplace. She is an award-winning scholar and educator who has published in the International Journal of Business Communication, Communication Studies, and Christianity Today. Arianna is also a consultant for organizations, business professionals, and ministries. Arianna and her husband, Allen, have one son and enjoy running half marathons, traveling the world, and drinking good coffee.

Follow Dr. Molloy on LinkedIn and Instagram. Resources Mentioned:

• Os Guinness, Call: Finding and Fulfilling the Central Purpose of Your Life
• Daniel H. Pink, When: The Scientific Secrets of Perfect Timing
• Brené Brown
• Emily Nagoski & Amelia Nagoski, Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle
• Dr. Saundra Dalton-Smith, Sacred Rest: Recover Your Life, Renew Your Energy, Restore Your Sanity

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Wendy Alsup is an author and math teacher by trade. She has written several books, including I Forgive You: Finding Peace and Moving Forward When Life Really Hurts. She is a founding Member of The Pelican Project, a guild of women fostering commitment to Christian faith and practice across cultural, denominational, and racial lines. Wendy has also been a speaker at women’s Bible conferences such as the The Gospel Coalition’s Women’s Conference in 2022. She lives on her family farm with her 2 boys, 2 dogs, and 3 cats. Follow Wendy on Instagram or X. In this episode, Wendy shares:

• How she was called to both teach math and be a minister
• How math reflects the glory of God
• Working as a single mom with ongoing health concerns
• Her story as a part of Mars Hill Church where Mark Driscoll pastored
• How she navigated controversial gender issues at Mars Hill
• What she hopes readers will learn from her latest book, I Forgive You

Wendy’s other Books include:

• Companions in Suffering: Comfort for Times of Loss and Loneliness (2020 The Gospel Coalition Book Award - Christian Living)
• Is the Bible Good for Women?: Seeking Clarity and Confidence Through a Jesus-Centered Understanding of Scripture
• The Gospel-Centered Woman
• By His Wounds You are Healed: How the Message of Ephesians Transforms a Woman's Identity
• Practical Theology for Women: How Knowing God Makes a Difference in Our Daily Lives

Resources Mentioned:

• The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill Podcast

Thank you for listening! If this content is helpful to you as you seek to live out your God-given calling to His glory, purchase Women & Work: Bearing God’s Image and Joining in His Mission through our Work, or donate today to help us continue to produce more inspiring content!

Rebecca George is the founder of Radical Radiance® - a podcast community where listeners are equipped to blend what they love with the Jesus who makes them shine. She is a podcaster, speaker, and author whose greatest joy in life is discipling others to pursue their passions in a way that builds the Kingdom. In her free time, you can find her running outside, writing, or trying a new recipe with 90s country playing in the background.

Follow Rebecca on Instagram or at radicalradiance.live

In this episode, Rebecca answers:

• What is Radical Radiance? How did you decide on the name?
• What led you to become passionate about encouraging women in their calling?
• What type of work were you doing before you founded Radical Radiance?
• Your husband is a pastor. How do you view your calling in relation to his; are these in competition? How do they correlate to one another?
• How do you think about and manage time spent serving your ministry versus your time spent serving your local church?
• How can women cultivate their calling, especially those just starting to discern it?
• How can women treat their calling seriously instead of just a “cute little side hobby?”
• Give us a teaser for your new book, You're Not Too Late: Trusting God's Timing in a Hurry-Up World.
• And more!

Resource Mentioned:

• You’re Not Too Late by Rebecca George
• Do the Thing by Rebecca George
• Courtney Moore on Rebecca’s Podcast, Radical Radiance

Thank you for listening! Ways you can support Women & Work:

• Become a Women & Work monthly partner
• Purchase our book, Women & Work: Bearing God’s Image and Joining in His Mission through our Work
• Rate, subscribe to, and share our show!