There’s a shift happening. After years of Zooms and online groups, leaders are craving real rooms with real people—masterminds, boardrooms, private collectives, and retreats that create formation, not just photos. In this candid Off Topic, But On Point conversation, Odette, Dr. Janine Do Cabo(The Intentional), and Ps. Christo Pretorius (The Expander) break down why in‑person communities are trending—and how the right room accelerates clarity, trust, and growth.

What you’ll learn:

• Scale vs substance: when online wins—and when the room wins
• How to identify “the right room” for your season and goals
• The leadership shift from information to formation
• The role of community design: mastermind, boardroom, and private collectives
• Practical filters to evaluate events, networks, and retreats

Who this is for:

• Boutique accounting firm owners and professional services leaders
• Purpose‑driven founders and executives seeking depth, not noise
• Leaders building advocacy engines through real relationships

You’ll walk away with a practical lens to choose spaces that move you forward, deepen accountability, and actually change outcomes—not just your calendar.

Timestamps:

• 00:00 Introduction to Off Topic, but on point
• 01:12 The Importance of In-Person Connections
• 05:03 The Science Behind Face-to-Face Interactions
• 08:56 The Role of Community in Personal Growth
• 13:20 Digital vs. In-Person: Finding the Balance
• 21:40 The Ancient Practice of Gathering
• 25:25 The Power of Genuine Relationships
• 25:58 The Impact of Digital and the Pandemic
• 26:42 Expanding Your Vision and Accountability
• 29:30 The Importance of Authenticity Online
• 32:43 The Value of Being in the Right Room
• 36:56 Personal Growth Through the Right Connections
• 47:36 Final Thoughts on Networking and Growth