Forever is a long time.

It’s especially a long time if you’re in hell.

And so we need to make sure we’ve got this doctrine right.

Revelation 14:11 says of the people in hell

the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever

Jude 7 says Sodom and Gomorrah

serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire

One of the traditional Christian teachings is that hell is (1) eternal, (2) conscious, and (3) torment.

This is probably the mainline Christian teaching in most denominations, but yet, there are a number of Christians who don’t believe hell can last forever. Or if it does, that the people there couldn’t possibly be conscious. And if they are, then it must not be all torment.

And so they come up with alternative doctrines like annihilationism or purgatory- which may not be technically biblical, but they sound a whole lot more palatable to our modern 21st Century mindsets than the uncomfortable view of God sending people to an eternal wrath.

That sounds a bit over-the-top. Would God really do that? Why would a finite amount of sins deserve an infinite amount of punishment. We gotta figure this out.

Because eternity is way too long to get this hell thing wrong.

I find this doctrine of eternal conscious torment be weird, and I’d like to explore whether it’s in the Bible.

And also, whether the Book of Enoch might help us to shed a little more light on it.

Turn to Revelation 14, and let’s get weird.

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0:00 - Introduction

2:00 - Eternity is Too Long to be Wrong

6:15 - Objection 1, Annihilationism

10:40 - Objection 2, Hell isn’t Loving

14:10 - Enoch 2-5

19:05 - Objection 3, Infinite Punishment for Finite Sins

24:15 - Next Time

25:20 - Closing Thoughts

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If you’re intrigued by strange Bible stories, uncovering Bible mysteries, or learning about unusual biblical teachings, this podcast is for you! Dive deep into weird Bible facts, biblical controversies, and the supernatural in the Bible, while exploring the hidden stories of the Bible you may have never heard. Get a fresh perspective as we explain the Bible in ways that challenge the norm and uncover the unexpected. I’m so glad you’re here- don’t forget to SUBSCRIBE so that you never miss an episode!

Why should you study the book of Enoch? Does it hold any value to our faith walk? Is it ill-advised to read any collection of prophetic writings when it’s not part of the biblical canon?

Well, let’s answer that question with an observation: the book of Jude directly quotes from the book of Enoch.

Jude 14-15 say

14 It was also about these that Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of his holy ones, 15 to execute judgment on all and to convict all the ungodly of all their deeds of ungodliness that they have committed in such an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things that ungodly sinners have spoken against him.”

Perhaps you say, well, Enoch WAS in the Old Testament. And that’s correct. However, that quotation from him was not in the Old Testament. It’s only found in the ancient Book of Enoch.

So why is Jude quoting from prophetic writings that aren’t part of Scripture? And if the prophetic writings are true, then why not include them in Scripture?

I find this to be weird, and I’d like to explore why this prophecy of Enoch’s is in the Bible and why the rest of his book isn’t.

Turn to Jude, and let’s get weird.

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0:00 - Introduction

2:00 - Did Jude Actually Quote Enoch?

10:10 - Peter & Jesus’ history book

14:00 - Why isn’t Enoch part of the Canon?

21:30 - Things to Come

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Hosted by Luke Taylor

If you’re intrigued by strange Bible stories, uncovering Bible mysteries, or learning about unusual biblical teachings, this podcast is for you! Dive deep into weird Bible facts, biblical controversies, and the supernatural in the Bible, while exploring the hidden stories of the Bible you may have never heard. Get a fresh perspective as we explain the Bible in ways that challenge the norm and uncover the unexpected. I’m so glad you’re here- don’t forget to SUBSCRIBE so that you never miss an episode!

I have studied a fair amount of literature on the world before the flood, but none of it has made that world come alive to me like Brian Godawa’s theological works. He graciously joined me for an interview today to discuss some of his theological foundations; some of the topics discussed include:

- Did “gods” walk among men?

- The Sons of God and the Divine Council

- Michael Heiser’s influence on theology

- The Book of Enoch’s credibility

And a whole lot more! Welcome to a weird new year of the podcast!

Brian Godawa is the author of the Chronicles of the Nephilim series- including Noah Primeval- and a wide variety of other works. Learn about all that he does at Godawa.com

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Hosted by Luke Taylor

If you’re intrigued by strange Bible stories, uncovering Bible mysteries, or learning about unusual biblical teachings, this podcast is for you! Dive deep into weird Bible facts, biblical controversies, and the supernatural in the Bible, while exploring the hidden stories of the Bible you may have never heard. Get a fresh perspective as we explain the Bible in ways that challenge the norm and uncover the unexpected. I’m so glad you’re here- don’t forget to SUBSCRIBE so that you never miss an episode!