This episode of Unlocked is one I didn’t know I needed. Contemporary Christian singer-songwriter Matthew West joins me and what starts with laughing about The Masked Singer somehow turns into one of the most honest conversations about faith, shame, marriage, and what it actually looks like to live what you preach.

We talk about growing up with pressure around faith, feeling like all eyes are on you, and the danger of becoming performative instead of personal. Matthew opens up about being better at talking about God than talking to Him. That one hit me. We talk about grace, about shame, about how easy it is to remember our worst mistakes and forget that God doesn’t keep score the way we do.

We also get into marriage in today’s world, breaking generational cycles, apologizing to your kids when you mess up, and why humility might be one of the most powerful things a parent can model. There’s something really beautiful about hearing a man talk about choosing his wife every day and putting faith at the center of his home.

If you’ve ever questioned where God is in the middle of your hardest seasons… if you’ve wrestled with shame… if you’re trying to build something healthy after coming from dysfunction… this conversation is for you. And yes, we also talk about his unreleased song that might just save a few marriages.

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About Matthew West:

Dubbed “one of Christian music’s most prolific singer-songwriters” (Billboard), Matthew West has notched 38 No.1 songs combined as an artist and songwriter and has been awarded RIAA Gold and Platinum certifications. West is also a five-time GRAMMY nominee, NSAI’s 2022 Songwriter-Artist of the Year, ASCAP’s 2023 Golden Note Award recipient, ASCAP’s Songwriter of the Year recipient, and a multiple ASCAP Christian Music Songwriter/Artist of the Year winner. He has received an American Music Award, a Billboard Music Award, K-LOVE Fan Awards, GMA Dove Awards, and has been named Billboard’s Hot Christian Songwriter of the Year. A recipient of the Rich Mullins Impact Award, West also received a Primetime Emmy® Award nomination for Original Music & Lyrics for the title track for the feature film “The Heart of Christmas.”

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This week on Unlocked, I’m sitting down with Thais Gibson, founder of The Personal Development School and an expert on attachment styles, trauma, and subconscious reprogramming… and let’s just say, I was not prepared for how seen I was about to feel.

We talk about why we are the way we are, how childhood conditioning quietly follows us into adulthood, and the patterns we keep repeating in relationships without even realizing it. Thais breaks down attachment styles in a way that makes so much sense, from anxious to avoidant to fearful avoidant, and how those patterns show up in love, conflict, communication, and even the way we handle success.

We get into radical accountability, core wounds, nervous system regulation, and why healing isn’t about blaming your parents… but it is about taking responsibility for your own growth. I share personal stories about love, overperforming, shutting down, and what it’s like to finally feel safe in a healthy relationship.

If you’ve ever wondered why you push people away, cling too tightly, overreact to small things, or feel like you’re waiting for the other shoe to drop… this conversation will open your eyes.

Healing is possible. But you have to be willing to do the work.

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This week on Unlocked, is a very special guest… and apparently a new host. Chloe Chrisley is back in the studio and she makes it very clear that this might actually be her podcast now.

Savannah and Chloe talk about what it’s really like being 13 today, the mean girl moments, middle school drama, navigating identity, and learning how to stand up for yourself when kids cross the line. Chloe opens up about growing up fast, what it felt like when their parents were gone, how she handled kids making fun of her at school, and why she learned not to get her hopes up too quickly when she heard Mom and Dad were coming home.

They also get into adoption, hair, sibling rankings (yes, Savannah asked), dark humor, sourdough overload, and the reality of going from sister to full-time guardian and back again.

It’s funny. It’s unfiltered. It’s a little chaotic. But underneath it all, it’s a conversation about resilience, growing up in the public eye, and the kind of love that doesn’t change even when life does.

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