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Two Steps Forward — Sustainability Meets Business Reality

Two Steps Forward — Sustainability Meets Business Reality

De : Joel Makower and Solitaire Townsend
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Being a sustainable business professional is both exhilarating and terrifying. Lots of steps forward…and back. To succeed you need deep insights, real experience, lots of inspiration, maybe a few laughs. Each episode, sustainable business veterans Solitaire Townsend and Joel Makower delve into the complexities of the moment and introduce you to provocative and inspiring people you need to know.Joel Makower and Solitaire Townsend Economie
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  • Katharine Hayhoe says our climate theory of change was always broken
    Jul 12 2026

    Climate scientist Dr. Katharine Hayhoe — Nature Conservancy chief scientist, Texas Tech professor and author of "Saving Us" — joins Joel and Solitaire to explain why hope beats doom as a climate strategy, why more disasters don't produce more action, and the one underrated lever she'd hand a Fortune 500 CEO instead of another renewable-energy announcement.

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    58 min
  • What climate comedians can teach us about storytelling
    Jun 14 2026

    What can climate communicators learn from stand-up comedians? Quite a lot, it turns out. Joel Makower and Solitaire Townsend sit down with Stuart Goldsmith — climate comedian, podcaster, and Live at the Apollo veteran — and Esteban Gast, the Colombian-American comedian behind the Climate Comedy Cohort. They talk about performing for hostile rooms, the power of vulnerability, why hypocrisy is the best material, and why treating your audience like friends might be the most underrated tool in climate communications.

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    54 min
  • Why sustainability professionals need to be ready for wild cards
    May 25 2026

    Soli and Joel ask an uncomfortable question:sustainability professionals are trained to track trends and build momentum —but are we actually prepared for wild cards?

    We went through some big ones: a 90% probability El Niño that most supply chains aren't pricing in, a data center oppositionmovement that's blocked $18 billion in U.S. projects, an insurance exodusthat's quietly making whole communities uninsurable, and the reality that social movements — for and against sustainability — are among the most powerful forces shaping corporate behavior.

    As Soli put it: This is literally our job. And we're not doing it.

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    39 min
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