Tamara Holder is a nationally recognized women’s rights and multi-plaintiff attorney. She was a legal analyst on Fox News Channel for nearly a decade before devoting her entire practice to representing (mostly) women as a feminist lawyer. Tamara has testified before Congress, obtained clemency for the rehabilitated, and worked with the nation’s leading social justice and political figures on legislation that protects women and minority workers. Her work has been recognized in numerous publications.

I had such a great time talking to Tamara about her work, love for Live music, and philanthropy. Please use the below link to donate to the Divided Sky Foundation's Women's Scholarship Fund - which she formally established in 2023. The Holidays can be a tight financial time for all of us - but any donation we are able to make will help this tremendous cause.

CAMPAIGN - Divided Sky Women's Scholarship Fund - Campaign

Tamara - we've only just met - but I sincerely appreciate all of the work that you have dedicated your life to. Thank you so much for coming on the show - and for the work you do on behalf of Women across the globe.

To my daughters Emily and Laureli - this episode is for you. - Daddy

Tamara's Socials:

Instagram

https://www.facebook.com/share/1DdhnTeFHR/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Women’s Rights Lawyer | The Law Firm of Tamara Holder

Song Credit:

'Joy' - Phish - off the album ‘Joy (Deluxe Version)’ - ℗ 2009 Phish

'Waste' - Trey Anastasio and Page McConnell - 10/30/20 - The Barn

https://youtu.be/LnjXTPJ2XKI?si=4yb7fjWzUm0VxoQh

'Bug' - Trey and Jovi - https://youtu.be/M_KHGeByNjI?si=N1p9nevH3TLw0XPL

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Hailing from Rockville, Maryland and calling Denver, Colorado home, Eric Martinez is a guitarist in the rock/jam band world and a fixture of the local Denver Music Scene.

​Having been a member of multiple touring acts over the years, Eric has earned a reputation as a hired gun and polished music professional. Whether he’s onstage or in the studio, Eric’s precision and laser focus elevates most any act or project. His musical acumen and his demand for perfection keeps him high on people’s lists. In short, Eric is a musician’s musician; a player’s player; an artist’s artist.

​Eric’s diverse range of talents allows him to acclimate to most any musical setting. Whether engineering and producing a bluegrass track for Jojo Herrmann (Widespread Panic) in his studio or shredding solos on stage with Portland’s Jerry Joseph & The Jackmormons, Eric is renowned for his ability to instantly add energy and prowess to the stage.

​However, it’s his songwriting on his newest solo effort You Know Why I'm Here out now plus his collaborations with other musicians like John "Jojo" Hermann, Jerry Joseph, Daniel Hutchens, Todd Nance, Eric Carter, Josh Stack, and Tori Pater that has set him apart from other guitar slingers. Eric sings, writes, produces, engineers and plays lead. His instincts for the instrument have been honed by his professionalism, work ethic, and standing alongside the best of the best, year after year. He’s not limited by tone or genre, scene or style. He's in for it all!.

It was truly my pleasure to sit down with Eric to learn about his incredible life journey. I really dig his music - and he was very gracious to give me a lot of time to talk about the music that we all love. Thank you Eric!!

Go check out Eric at his website and Socials below:

HOME | Eric Martinez

You Know Why I'm Here | Eric Martinez

https://www.instagram.com/ericmartinezmusic?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==

Song Credit:

'Heartbreak Kid' - Eric Martinez (feat. Eric Carter) - off the album 'Caldera' - ℗ 2022 Eric Martinez

'King of Birds' - Eric Martinez - off the album 'Covered' - ℗ 2020 Eric Martinez

'Henry Parsons Died' - Bloodkin - Live from Cervantes' Other Side, Denver, CO 7/7/2012

'The Game' - Cubanstack - odd the EP 'Menagerie' - ℗ 2022 Cubanstack

'Pickin' Up the Pieces' - Widespread Panic - off the album 'Everyday' - ℗ 1993 Volcano Entertainment III, LLC

'Way Too Loud' - Jerry Joseph & The Jackmormons - off the album 'Panther Tracks, Vol. 1' - @ 2025 World Will Turn

'Rooming House' - Eric Martinez - off the album 'Caldera' - ℗ 2022 Eric Martinez

" End of the Show" - Bloodkin - Live from The Georgia Theater 12-10-16

Eric's Music Recommendations:

- R.E.M - 'Document' - https://open.spotify.com/album/6gMv3MgFlieOM6Uz5GZBzy?si=DQyDwDRhQYuGknb--elrcw

- Blizzard of Oz - https://open.spotify.com/album/4qUMByJ3Pk94BFnCmGaUPS?si=v3urJIdfRTah4RGvDNTpDw

- The Clash - Sandinista! - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0rCbozekfWhxma7By68aPG?si=g0mkGHTETIK5fJ4OFeaFCQ

- The Hold Steady - Stay Positive - https://open.spotify.com/album/0HfqHcAyFa8mOJI1VLs5Sg?si=1pKE7OyHTJ69fSBJ-NqIJQ

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New friends of the show - Addie Tonic - is an alterna-rock band formed in Denver, CO featuring dynamic front woman Meghann5k (Vocals, Guitar), Matt Youngblood (Lead Guitar, Vocals), Dylan Tilton (Bass), and Dennis Valencia (Drums). Addie Tonic’s catchy songs are driven by Meghann5k’s pop-fueled lyrics and Matt’s rock-inspired guitar licks, building garage rock/shoegaze like walls of sound with a punk rock edge. is an alterna-rock band formed in Denver, CO featuring dynamic front woman Meghann5k (Vocals, Guitar), Matt Youngblood (Lead Guitar, Vocals), Dylan Tilton (Bass), and Dennis Valencia (Drums). Addie Tonic’s catchy songs are driven by Meghann5k’s pop-fueled lyrics and Matt’s rock-inspired guitar licks, building garage rock/shoegaze like walls of sound with a punk rock edge.

We spent some time discussing how Meghann and Matt met, subsequent formation of the band, and the music that they have put out to date. We discuss Matt's prior work with Jerry Joseph, Todd Nance & Friends, The Interstellar Boys, JoJo Hermann and how he and Meghann have collaborated with other amazing musicians and producers to put together their killer sound. We discuss many, many topics - give a listen!

I really enjoyed sitting down with these beautiful folks to talk about all things Rock & Roll - go check these guys out if you have the opportunity! Here's a few dates:

Saturday, September 6 @ 8:00PM | Addie Tonic / Bad Roommates / Hopefully Soon | Atrium Music Lounge, Fort Collins, CO

Saturday, September 27 @ 7:00PM | Ben Ottewell of Gomez / Addie Tonic Duo | Bar 404, Denver, Colorado

Connect with them on their Socials here:

https://www.facebook.com/addietonic

https://instagram.com/addietonic

https://youtube.com/channel/UCKaNtXFNmNcWxMbuZZdCHtQ

https://open.spotify.com/album/3k0KJ3gdfw1rmYdIErL5x7?si=upCxSPjJRJSgbJe5GVX22Q

https://www.reverbnation.com/addietonic

https://addietonic.bandcamp.com/

https://soundcloud.com/addietonic

Meghann/Matt music recommendations from the show:

Teenage Bottlerocket

viagr aboys

The Brian Jonestown Massacre

wet leg

Song Credit:

'Crashing Cars and Fanning Flames' - Addie Tonic

'Brutal' - Addie Tonic

'Iodine' - Addie Tonic

'Seether' - performed by Addie Tonic (written by Veruca Salt)

Episode Photo Credit - Dave Ingraham

*A special thank you to Annemarie Jacar over at 'Almost Phamous' for use of her video/audio recording of 'Ride Me High' performed on 8/16/25 by JoJo Hermann, Daniel Donato, Duane Trucks, Kevin, Scott, Natalie Cressmen, Holly Bowling and more. (Conscious Alliance event)

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