Some of us crushed on boy bands as teenagers. Our guest Rachel Pusey, however, recalls crushing on California's first female Chief Justice (in a lovely, inspired, non-romantic manner of course). On this episode of The Women's Advocate, Rachel and Sarah talk about Rachel's beautiful, evolving path through the law – a journey that has taken Rachel from representing employees to supporting employers, and, most recently, to a reinvigorated passion for employment law as a mediator. Together, we dive into the challenge and payoff of making bold career leaps, centering human connection in our work, and practicing emotional intelligence both at work and beyond. We further discuss the power of mediation as an alternative form of legal resolution that can help all the parties find common ground and reach agreements. Enjoy!

Deidre shares her own powerful journey of navigating many big life changes at once as she dives into the challenges of being a woman and mother, leaving a job, her battle with cancer, divorce, and ultimate decision to found Von Rock Law. Deidre and Sarah discuss how these experiences have been a strength to Deidre as she has centered her award-winning trust and estate law practice around kindness and empathy for clients going through and planning for major life changes. The pair sing the praises of the beauty of San Francisco, engaging in the community outside of work, choosing the people you work with, and finding love.