Alexia Pappas moved to Tampa with no job lined up, interviewed at ten firms, and nearly took a waitressing gig before finding the right fit. On Episode 112 of The Upstream Leader, she also tells Jeremy Clopton that she accepted a position in a department she had zero experience and no real interest in because the people felt right. That decision launched a decade-long career at the same firm. Alexia's path wasn't linear, starting in CAS despite wanting tax, discovering she knew "absolutely nothing" about foundational accounting, and spending years proving herself before making the switch. But that detour became her advantage, giving her a particularly deep understanding of her clients' operations. Now, as she eyes partnership, Alexia's focus has shifted from climbing to lifting. She talks about succession planning not as a threat but as freedom, about measuring success by fulfillment rather than just income, and about building a career where showing up excited matters as much as the work itself. Ten years in, she's still at the same firm, and for her, that's exactly the point.

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When Jeremy Jones stepped into the CEO role at Frazier & Deeter, he inherited not just a legacy, but a crossroads. The firm, steeped in tradition and guided by the founders' ongoing presence, faced a pivotal decision: pursue private equity investment or maintain the status quo. He joins Jeremy Clopton on Episode 111 of The Upstream Leader and explains how, alongside his leadership team, he navigated a landscape transformed by industry peers embracing new models. Their journey was marked by candid conversations, cultural soul-searching, and a deliberate shift in governance and compensation in order to prepare the firm for change before committing to it. Ultimately, a partnership emerged not from financial calculus, but from a shared vision for people-first growth. Whether or not your firm is currently or will ever consider going the private equity route, this is information you want to understand as the accounting profession continues into the era of its latest "next big thing."

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Caught in the endless loop of planning, reflecting, and waiting for the "right moment" to lead? Host Jeremy Clopton challenges the comfort of "becoming" and urges a shift into the discomfort and authenticity of being on Episode 110 of The Upstream Leader. Drawing from personal experience and the struggles of professionals everywhere, he exposes the trap of productive procrastination and the myth that more preparation will finally make us ready. Instead, he champions imperfect action, self-awareness, and the courage to step into the arena before feeling fully equipped. Leadership isn't a future destination but a present choice, forged in the messy, real-time work of showing up and making decisions while trying to learn what you think you need to know on the fly. Jeremy calls on all of us to stop delegating leadership to our future selves and start being the leaders we aspire to become – today.

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