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    • Episode 8: Out of My Comfort Zone with Ivy Vale and Rick Reil
      Jan 22 2026

      Third of Never's Jon Dawson talks to Ivy Vale and Rick Reil about their new film, Out of My Comfort Zone.

      Songs used in this episode:

      (intro) Rolling Down A Hill - Third of Never
      Overture/Out of My Comfort Zone - Out of My Comfort Zone Soundtrack
      We Fit Perfectly - Out of My Comfort Zone Soundtrack
      Don't Be So Stereotypical - Out of My Comfort Zone Soundtrack

      From OutofMyComfortZoneMusical.com:

      Out of My Comfort Zone debuted off-Broadway as a stage musical to sold-out audiences in New York and in London. The highly anticipated feature film had its festival premiere at the 20th Annual Big Apple Film Festival to a sold-out audience in New York City at the historic Cinema Village theater.



      The screenplay alone garnered over 80 festival and competition awards before anyone even heard the music. The feature film is currently winning numerous festival awards for Best Feature, Best Musical, Best LGBTQ Feature, Best Acting Ensemble, Best Director, Best Comedy, and Best Original Score.



      Josh and Rachel's close friendship is tested when a high school cyberbully with a hidden past threatens to expose secrets in this feature film musical comedy about having the courage to be who you are.



      Written by husband-and-wife team Ivy Vale (book, lyrics, music) and Rick Reil (music), Out of My Comfort Zone was created as a direct response to the bullying epidemic and alarming rise in youth suicide. Out of My Comfort Zone engages kids with an insanely catchy original score, humor and a cast of diverse, relatable, teenage characters. Out of My Comfort Zone is for 'tweens, teens and families to watch together, to open up dialogues about gender and sexuality, and provide a safe way for kids to talk to their parents about how they are treated at school.



      "A singing, dancing powerhouse with dialogue that rings true and real." - The Huffington Post



      343Collective.com








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      27 min
    • Episode 7: Author Bill Kopp talks about his new book "What's the Big Idea?: 30 Great Concept Albums"
      Nov 21 2025

      On this episode Third of Never's Jon Dawson talks to acclaimed music journalist Bill Kopp about his new book, What's the Big Idea?

      From 30ConceptAlbums.com:

      As long as there has been music, the form has been used as a vehicle for storytelling. Artists who have something to say often find that putting it into music is the ideal means of communicating thoughts and feelings to others. And the concept-album form is a logical extension of that storytelling impulse, often writ large. It allows the writer to tackle bigger themes, more involved story lines, more finely textured characters and ideas.

      In the pages of WHAT'S THE BIG IDEA, author Bill Kopp explores 30 remarkable concept albums, drawing on new, firsthand interviews with the artists behind their creation.

      To order the book from Hozac Records and Books, click here.
      To order the book from Amazon, click here.

      Music heard in tihs episode:

      Third of Never - Rolling Down a Hill
      Pete Townshend - Outlive The Dinosaur
      Sykofant - Between Air and Water
      The Church - Ascendence
      John Guy Barwick - Coastal Chase

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      40 min
    • Bill Scheft: Return of the Truant
      Aug 11 2025

      Novelist/drummer/Letterman writer Bill Scheft talks to Third of Never's Jon Dawson about the Rising Storm, The Truants, Stephen Colbert, Saturday NIght Live, Sebastian Maniscalco, Jim Downey, and Al Franken.

      Addendum to the Craig Ferguson portion of the conversation: "Ferguson got $5 million because he wasn't selected to replace Dave. CBS wanted to get control back of the slot. Corden started two months before Dave went off the air."

      www.BillScheft.com
      CLICK HERE to purchase Bill's Books from Amazon

      Intro music: Run Silent, Run Deep by Third of Never

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      1 h et 14 min
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