Glenn Mills and Wayne discuss the potential inclusion of the 50-meter event in NCAA swimming, proposed by the College Swimming Coaches Association (CSCA). They highlight concerns about the event's underwater nature, which may not appeal to spectators. Wayne emphasizes the need for adaptability in coaching to accommodate both sprint and distance events. They debate the impact on longer events, suggesting incentives like bonus points for swimmers competing in multiple distances. Glenn proposes giving more points for longer events to balance the focus. They also discuss the importance of engaging parents and the potential for increased participation if NCAA swimming becomes more visible on TV.

Glenn Mills and Wayne discuss the impact of the new 50-meter sprint events on swimming, particularly at the Olympics. Wayne shares insights from a meeting with Bill Sweetenham, emphasizing the positive opportunities for coaches to engage more athletes. They highlight the increased competitiveness and the need for better skills, timing, and technique. The conversation also touches on the broader implications of sport changes, citing examples from triathlon, cricket, and lacrosse. They stress the importance of adapting to attract more participants and improve the sport's accessibility, particularly for young athletes and their families.

Glenn Mills and Wayne discuss their recent life changes: Wayne moved from the Gold Coast to Bagotville, NSW, and Glenn from Arizona to near Chicago. They address the impact of Olympic rule changes, such as rugby's shift to 7-aside and lacrosse's shorter format, on sports. They also debate the "enhanced games" concept, which involves athletes focusing on weightlifting and sprint events, and the controversy surrounding performance-enhancing drugs. Both agree that the changes are necessary for the sport's survival and express excitement about their new, shorter podcast format, promising more in-depth discussions in future episodes.