I had one of my favorite conversations on the podcast with sales training expert Morgan Ingram. We get into what’s broken in sales training today, why coaching matters more than ever, and how top SaaS reps actually win deals. This episode is packed with real-world insight from someone who’s been in the trenches.Find Morgan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/morganjingramamp/

Tom and I talk about leaving behind what others think you should do, and truly walk in your purpose for your career.

Do you find yourself doing things just for the money?

How about doing things because people told you it’s what you’re supposed to be doing?

These are things that will keep you down. Work should feel like play, even on the days it feels like hard work.

On this episode of SellThatSaaS, host Will Padilla sits down with discovery & sales conversation expert Jonny Holsten (Bridge Selling) to fix the part of your process that’s quietly killing your deals: your discovery call. We unpack why most reps stop 2–3 questions too early, how to ask “why now?” without sounding pushy, the six categories every winning sales conversation hits, and how to stop advancing bad-fit inbound leads that clog your pipeline. We get into outbound vs inbound strategy, how to qualify with integrity, what to do when a prospect “has no timeline,” and why pain + timing matter more than any fancy demo you’ll ever run.If you’re tired of “let me think about it” endings, ghosted follow-ups, and marketing asking why you didn’t close a “good” lead, this episode will give you real frameworks, real language, and a new way to run discovery that actually closes.👉 Connect with Jonny: bridgeselling.com & “Fix Your Broken Sales Calls”👉 Connect with Will on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/william-padilla/👉 Subscribe for more SaaS sales, faith & career episodes every week.00:00 – Welcome Back to the Podcast01:10 – Why Will Took a Break (Life + Wedding Updates)02:20 – Introducing Jonny Holsten04:00 – Jonny’s Background: Marketing → Sales07:00 – What Bridge Selling Actually Does10:00 – The 6 Parts of a Winning Discovery Call13:20 – When Buyers Take Control of the Call16:00 – Inbound vs Outbound (Why They’re Totally Different)19:00 – The #1 Question Great Reps Always Ask22:00 – The Power of Slowing Down in Sales25:00 – Why Good Reps Don’t Assume27:20 – The Biggest Mistakes Reps Make in Discovery30:15 – Feature Dumping vs Connecting to Pain33:40 – “We’re Not a Fit for Everyone” (How to Take Control)36:50 – What Happens When There’s No Pain40:00 – How Marketing & Sales Misalign on Lead Quality43:20 – What To Do When Buyers Have “No Timeline”46:20 – Creating Real Urgency Without Manipulation49:00 – Final Takeaways: Mastering Discovery for SaaS50:15 – Where to Find Johnny + Book Info51:00 – Closing Thoughts & Next Episode Preview