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In this episode of the Patros Podcast, Allan and Jeff continue the Man As series with a special guest—Kam Babb, former Ohio State wide receiver and ministry leader. Together, they unpack what it means to be a Man as Servant Leader, looking to Jesus as the ultimate example of humility and service.

Kam shares powerful stories from his time at Ohio State, including the revival on campus, how young men are using their platforms for the kingdom, and how servant leadership is lived out in real life—from the locker room to the home. Allan and Jeff also reflect on their own journeys of fatherhood, leadership, and how God convicts us to serve our families the way He serves us.

This is a conversation full of practical wisdom, biblical truth, and encouragement for men who want to embrace healthy masculinity.

🔥 Highlights include:

• Why servant leadership is countercultural but essential

• How God used Kam Babb’s testimony to spark revival on campus

• The importance of intimacy with Jesus in leadership

• Real stories of conviction as husbands and fathers

• What it means to keep the “main thing the main thing”

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In this episode of the Patros Podcast, Allan and Jeff continue the Man As series with special guest Pastor Kirk Kirkland. Together, they unpack what it means to be a man as a husband, exploring how marriage reflects Christ’s love for the Church and why identity in Jesus is the foundation of a healthy relationship.

Pastor Kirk shares openly about his own marriage, ministry, and discipleship journey, offering both practical wisdom and deep biblical insight.

• Why identity in Christ must come before achievement in marriage

• How insecurity erodes relationships and how men can find true confidence

• The role of discipleship, mentors, and community in sustaining a healthy marriage

• Why creating safety is one of the most important things a husband can offer

• Practical encouragement on worship, love languages, and leading at home

• Why every man is called to be the pastor of his own home

This conversation will challenge, encourage, and equip you to love your wife faithfully and lead your family with strength and humility.

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In this Man As relaunch episode, Allan and Jeff sit down with Rev. Rudy Rubio — pastor, chaplain, and leader in South LA. Rudy’s story of grace, redemption, and gospel courage has made his episode one of the most impactful in the entire series.

They talk about:

• How to stand for truth with boldness and humility in hostile environments

• Why work is more than a paycheck — it’s a calling and Kingdom witness

• The importance of discipling your kids at home instead of outsourcing to the church

• Navigating politics, immigration, and community service through a biblical lens

• Balancing marriage, family, and ministry without burning out

Rudy also shares behind-the-scenes stories from serving in Compton, as a hospital chaplain, and even as chaplain to the LA Dodgers.

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