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The Next New Thing

De : Andrew Warner
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Creating with AI is fun. Turning it into a growing business is even more fun.2025 Bootstrapped Giants Direction Economie Management et direction
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    • How Josh Mohrer built Wave AI
      Feb 3 2026

      Presented by Zapier
      https://zapier.com/

      Episode Highlights / Timestamps

      00:00 $7M ARR as a solo founder
      01:21 Profit, margins, and team size
      02:51 Josh’s path from Uber to Wave
      05:24 Choosing ideas in the early AI days
      06:18 Why summarization felt like the killer app
      08:15 Competing with Otter, Fireflies, and others
      10:21 Recording real-world audio vs meeting bots
      12:18 Spending more on AI to improve quality
      13:39 Knowing you’re onto something from user emotion
      15:09 Why Wave stayed general instead of vertical
      16:12 Learning to build with ChatGPT
      18:00 How Wave’s architecture evolved
      19:39 Using Claude Code day-to-day
      21:00 AI agents analyzing analytics and logs
      25:21 The tools behind Wave (Cursor, Twilio, Adapt)
      27:27 Building instead of buying SaaS tools
      30:00 Using AI to ship features faster
      32:06 Why Zapier matters for data portability
      34:03 The future of cheap, abundant software
      36:09 Running Wave like a corner store, not a startup
      40:12 Growth goals without VC pressure
      42:18 How Wave gets customers today
      49:03 Why SEO side projects didn’t convert
      50:24 “If you’re good, things might work out”
      54:45 Revenue breakdown and take-home profit

      What does it look like when a single founder builds a profitable AI company — alone — and quietly grows it to millions in revenue?

      In this episode of The Next New Thing, Andrew Warner sits down with Josh Mohrer, creator of Wave AI, to unpack how he built a $7M ARR AI business with no full-time team — and how modern AI tools fundamentally changed what’s possible for solo founders.

      Josh previously helped scale Uber in its early days, but Wave AI is a very different story. It’s a one-person, profitable SaaS built around a deceptively simple idea: record real-world conversations, transcribe them, and generate high-quality summaries people actually trust. No hype. No venture capital. No big team.

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      56 min
    • Ryan Carson uses AI to customize email drip
      Jan 26 2026

      Presented by Zapier
      https://zapier.com/

      Episode Highlights / Timestamps

      00:00 Why every email should be personalized
      00:18 Ryan’s background and what Untangle does
      00:45 Rethinking traditional email drips
      01:12 Customizing emails based on user situations
      01:39 A real example that led to a signup
      02:06 Daily automated marketing insights via email
      03:00 Doing things that don’t scale with AI
      04:03 Walking through the AI email system
      05:06 Using lead magnets and contextual data
      06:09 Enriching leads and storing user context
      06:45 Hourly cron jobs and email scheduling
      07:39 Feeding context into the LLM correctly
      08:15 Preventing hallucinated features
      08:24 Sending emails with Resend
      09:18 Measuring clicks instead of opens
      10:12 Layering engagement-based follow-ups
      10:39 Long-term personalized nurture loops
      12:00 Turning marketing emails into real value
      13:03 Building vertical-specific AI agents
      14:15 Using Zapier and modern automations
      16:12 Building systems with AI coding agents
      18:27 Running multiple AI agents at once
      21:27 Deciding what to build in a world of “free code”
      24:09 Daily AI-generated growth recommendations
      27:45 Using AI to generate and validate ideas
      31:03 Increasing insight frequency, not brilliance
      34:21 Why personalized email is a massive opportunity
      34:48 Final takeaways

      Why isn’t every email completely customized for the person receiving it — especially now that AI can do it for us?

      In this episode of The Next New Thing, Andrew Warner sits down with Ryan Carson, a three-time founder currently building Untangle, to walk through a very practical, very real AI system he uses every day to grow his business.

      Ryan has spent over 25 years building startups, but while setting up a “standard” email drip for Untangle, he stopped and asked a simple question: why are we still sending the same emails to completely different people? Instead of writing dozens of templates, he built an AI-powered workflow that generates fully personalized emails — based on each user’s situation, behavior, and engagement — and adapts over time.

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      35 min
    • Step-by-Step build with Claude Code
      Jan 23 2026

      Presented by Zapier

      Episode Highlights / Timestamps

      [00:00] Why Pat decided to build his own video platform after YouTube strikes
      [02:06] Rebuilding a YouTube-style site in just a few hours with Claude Code
      [07:30] Designing the video experience before worrying about features
      [14:06] Using modern frameworks without writing code
      [23:06] Adding video streaming with third-party APIs instead of building from scratch
      [34:03] Letting AI debug and test the app automatically
      [42:00] Deploying the app live with one command
      [48:18] Why your website should be the hub, not social platforms

      In this episode of The Next New Thing, Andrew Warner talks with Pat Walls, founder of Starter Story, about how he used AI coding tools to quickly rebuild a version of YouTube after his channel was hit with content strikes.

      Pat walks through how he used Claude Code to design, build, debug, and deploy a working video platform in real time — without writing traditional code. Along the way, he explains why founders should treat social platforms as distribution, not infrastructure, and how owning your audience and your software changes how you think about risk, growth, and leverage.

      If you’ve ever wondered how far AI can really take you in building real products, this episode shows exactly what’s possible today.

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      51 min
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