Host Alan Chapell is joined by Ajit Varma and Kush Amlani from Mozilla, where they talk about the intersection of privacy and competition, the weaponization of privacy, and how Mozilla is placing a bet that staying true to their core privacy principles will enable Firefox to succeed over the long term. The Chapell Regulatory Insider may be found at - https://chapellreport.substack.com/ Kush Amlani is Director, Global Competition & Regulation at Mozilla, leading the work to create a level playing field in digital markets internationally. Prior to joining Mozilla, Kush was a Senior Competition & Regulatory Lawyer at the BBC for five years, based in London. He joined the BBC from SJ Berwin LLP (later Kings & Wood Mallesons), where he worked on antitrust cases across the UK and EU, spanning sectors such as energy, media, telecoms, and pharmaceuticals. In his role as Head of Firefox, Ajit Varma leads the development of the Firefox strategy, ensuring it’s a delightful experience for current users, as well as those of the future. Ajit has years of product management experience from Square, Google, and, immediately prior to joining Mozilla, Meta, where he was responsible for monetization of WhatsApp and overseeing Meta’s business messaging platform. Earlier in his career, he was a co-founder and CEO of Adku, a venture-funded machine learning platform that was acquired by Groupon. Ajit has a BS from the University of Texas at Austin. He is based in the Bay Area. Takeaways Product and policy are now deeply intertwined in modern tech decisions Some browsers are increasingly evolving into AI-powered agents Mozilla prioritizes user choice, transparency, and choice-driven AI experiences Privacy and competition should work together, not against each other Open source and browser diversity are critical hedges against Big Tech dominance Mozilla intentionally sacrifices revenue to stay aligned with its core privacy and trust principles The future of AI depends on interoperability and low barriers to entry Chapters 00:00 Intro to Mozilla’s role in privacy and competition 00:41 Why product and policy are now inseparable 03:03 Kush’s path into law and regulation 04:49 How browsers evolved into user agents 08:26 New AI browsers and distribution strategies 09:40 Mozilla’s approach to monetization without selling data 12:14 Why privacy matters more than ever 15:15 Privacy vs competition in regulation 24:08 Mozilla’s AI strategy and avoiding dependency 27:42 What trustworthy AI actually means 31:36 Privacy-enhancing technologies and their limits 34:11 The trade-offs of privacy-first business models 40:23 Why competition and browser diversity matter 41:32 The importance of Mozilla’s Gecko engine Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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