Sometimes life doesn’t fall apart — it just shifts.

In this episode of Mic & Ike Podcast, I’m talking about that in-between space: when the celebration is over, the pictures are posted, and reality quietly taps you on the shoulder.

The year started strong. Wins happened. Joy happened. And then responsibility showed up right on time.

This isn’t a sermon and it’s not a motivational speech. It’s an honest check-in from someone standing in transition — trusting God, doing the work, letting go of what’s done, and being real about the unknown.

If you’ve ever been grateful and exhausted at the same time… hopeful but still fed up… clear on where you’re going, but honest about where you are —

this episode is for you.

Because growth isn’t always pretty. And both can be true.

To kick off this next chapter of The Mic & Ike Podcast, Isaac sits down with someone who has shaped his walk, his foundation, and generations of his family — Reverend Thurmond Tillman, pastor of the historic First African Baptist Church of Savannah, the oldest continuous Black church in North America.

In this rich, heartfelt conversation, Rev. Tillman shares wisdom on navigating uncertainty, protecting your peace, mental health, the weight and calling of pastoring, and why the church still matters in a world full of viral moments and skepticism. Isaac and Rev. Tillman also dig into sound theology, community, entrepreneurship, criminal justice work, and what it truly means to live out your purpose.

There’s laughter, storytelling, truth-telling, and a fun round of “This or That” you don’t want to miss.

Welcome to the beginning.

Opening Sermon: Bishop G.E. Patterson

Listen… life been doing what it does, okay? But even with everything shifting and shaking, I always end up right back at the things that really mean something to me — and this podcast is one of them. “The Re-Up” is me turning the mic back on, getting settled, and setting the vibe for what’s coming. It’s not the full story yet… just the reset. The warm-up. The energy check before I really start talking my talk this season. So yeah… we back. Press play.