How do you cope when the unimaginable happens?

In this powerful episode, I sit down with Judy Giovangelo, the founder of Ben Speaks and Advanced Grief Recovery Specialist, who vulnerably shares her heart-wrenching story of losing her son Ben to suicide at just 18 years old.

Judy opens up about the incredibly unique soul that Ben was, the challenges they faced throughout his life, and the profound spiritual experiences — including past life regressions — that helped them both understand their deeper connection and purpose. After finding him in their garage, Judy’s world shattered… but from the ashes, something extraordinary was born.

We talk about: ✨The spiritual journey she and Ben shared — in this life and beyond ✨How grief became a catalyst for her healing and awakening ✨The early warning signs and how to support kids who are struggling ✨Her nonprofit’s mission to empower youth with emotional tools ✨How to transmute pain into purpose

This is not just a story of loss — it’s a story of love, legacy, and the healing power of transformation....and all the messy moments in between.

👉 Learn more about Judy’s work at judygio.com 💛 Support the mission at BenSpeaks.org

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In this solo episode, I open up about what vulnerability and authenticity really look like for me behind the scenes.

I share insights from a recent course I completed on emotional awareness and the VIEW state of mind — a powerful lens that has helped me become more present and self-compassionate during emotionally challenging times.

I also take you inside my personal process for reparenting myself when my inner child wants to rebel or self-sabotage. If you’ve ever found yourself spiraling into old patterns when things feel hard, or struggling with self sabotage, this episode will offer you both compassion and tools to find your way back to center....and into your own success.

In this episode, I share: ✨What authenticity means when there is no script ✨How I use the VIEW state to allow difficult emotions ✨My step-by-step self-reparenting process ✨Permission to be human while staying aligned with your purpose

💫 Whether you're on a transformational journey or just learning to unconditionally love your messy humanness — this episode's for you.

If you are interested in finding out more on the Connection Course by the Art of Accomplishment as mentioned in the episode, check out👇🏻 https://www.artofaccomplishment.com/

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In this super raw and revealing episode, I sit down with Luke Beastall, former semi-pro footballer turned entrepreneur, coach, and all-around powerhouse of authenticity.

Luke opens up candidly about his journey from chasing a dream on the football field to battling body image issues, dealing with bullying, losing himself and his confidence, launching a successful personal training business — and then losing everything. But it was in the ashes of that loss that Luke reconnected with his truth, redefined what success actually means to him, and began building a life rooted in what really matters.

We dive deep into:

👉🏻The dark side of semi professional football culture 👉🏻How hustle culture nearly broke him (financially & emotionally) 👉🏻The shift from ego-driven goals to soul-aligned success 👉🏻Why reconnection to self is the key to fulfillment 👉🏻His best advice for those rebuilding from rock bottom

Luke’s story is a powerful reminder that the most important transformation we make isn’t in our business or our body — it’s in who we allow ourselves to become as we reconnect with who we really are.

💥 Whether you’re a coach, entrepreneur, athlete, or someone in a massive life transition, this one will hit home. It is a MUST watch!!

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This episode is a raw, vulnerable, and incredibly empowering conversation with transformation coach Julia Phoenix — a woman who has lived through some of the most intense trauma imaginable and turned her pain into profound purpose.

Julia opens up about growing up with parents in a cult, enduring sexual abuse as a child, and being diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes at age 10. From those early traumatic experiences came a cascade of coping mechanisms — eating disorders, substance abuse, and repeated stints in treatment centers.

But what makes Julia’s story so impactful is not just what she went through… it’s how she transformed it.

In this episode, we explore: ✨What it was really like growing up in a religious community ✨How unhealed trauma can show up as addiction and disconnection ✨Julia’s courageous path through multiple treatment centers ✨How she reconnected with her inner truth and spiritual gifts ✨What she teaches now about embodiment, healing, and the path to wholeness

Julia’s voice is one that needs to be heard. Her story is one of true alchemy — turning pain into power, addiction into awareness, and trauma into transformation.

This episode builds and builds until it hits a climax at the end with some of the most powerful insights I have ever heard.....and you wont' want to miss these gems!!!💎

🔗 Learn more about Julia: https://www.juliaphoenixeleven.com https://www.facebook.com/juliaphoenix11 https://www.instagram.com/juliaphoenixeleven/

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In this powerful and raw episode, Em Hollis is joined by life coach Lyndsay Gilson, founder of Embody You, for a deep and honest conversation about what happens when chronic compassion fatigue, people-pleasing, and perfectionism push you to your edge.

Lyndsay vulnerably shares the moment everything came crashing down — a breaking point at work that forced her to look within and finally begin the healing journey she had been avoiding. From the darkest moments of 2017 to the rollercoaster ride of transformation since, she opens up about the messy truth of what true inner work looks like.

This episode dives into: 👉🏻The cost of chronic people-pleasing & emotional burnout 👉🏻How empaths can lose themselves in service of others 👉🏻The pivotal moment that led Lyndsay to quit her job & choose herself 👉🏻Her transition from OT to life coach and helping high-achieving women reclaim joy 👉🏻The messy, nonlinear journey of becoming the most sustainable version of YOU

Lyndsay is now a powerful coach guiding high achieving women into their own healing and alignment, helping them get off the burnout hamster wheel and create a life that actually feels good.

🔗 Connect with Lyndsay: https://www.embodyyou.us https://www.instagram.com/embody__you/

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The Illness Was the Messenger – Cindy Costley’s 35-Year Healing Journey

In this powerful episode, I sit down with Cindy Costley, founder of The Underlying Answers and creator of the Electromagnetic Body Desensitization Technique™ (EBDT™), to unpack a nearly 35-year journey of illness, awakening, and radical healing.

Cindy shares her extraordinary story of living with a rare autoimmune condition that left her allergic to almost everything — food, environments, life itself. After decades of chronic pain, isolation, and finding herself on death's door, Cindy finally discovered what her body was really trying to tell her.

This conversation explores: ➡️The dark nights of the soul when nothing seems to work ➡️How early childhood trauma hides in the body as illness ➡️The moment Cindy stopped fighting and started listening ➡️The birth of her revolutionary healing modality: EBDT™ ➡️The six frequencies of healing: Spiritual, Energetic, Mental, Emotional, Physical & Behavioral

Whether you're navigating chronic illness, emotional trauma, or the quest to live more aligned and free — this episode will expand your perspective and give you hope. It is truly one of those inspirational stories you will never forget!

🔗 Learn more about Cindy’s work at: https://theunderlyinganswers.com

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This is the episode that shouldn't be! Tune in to hear why I am taking a break.

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Are you ready to hear what no one else will tell you about the emotional rollercoaster of starting and running a heart-led business?

In this raw and real solo episode of The Messy Truth of Transformation, Em Hollis opens up about the behind-the-scenes truth of building a spiritual business—from the breakdowns to the breakthroughs.

Whether you're a coach, healer, soul-led entrepreneur, or want to create a more aligned profession, this episode will give you a grounded look at the inner work required to truly succeed; and the pitfalls to avoid along the way.

Em also shares 4 must-know lessons for anyone stepping into spiritual entrepreneurship so you can lead with alignment, courage, and clarity and actually maintain profitability.

💎What you’ll hear in this episode: ➡️The biggest myths about running a coaching or healing business ➡️The unseen emotional challenges of spiritual entrepreneurship ➡️How to navigate the dark nights of doubt and burnout ➡️4 non-negotiables for building a soul-aligned business ➡️Why embracing the messy middle is the key to long-term success

This is the episode you didn’t know you needed—until now.

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