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Next Level Agents: The Kevin & Fred Show - Interviews with the best and brightest minds in the real estate industry

Next Level Agents: The Kevin & Fred Show - Interviews with the best and brightest minds in the real estate industry

De : Kevin Kauffman and Fred Weaver
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Interviews from the best and brightest minds in the real estate industry. We cover topics like Investing, listings, buyers, brokerage, technology, entrepreneurship and so much more. Brought to you by KevinandFred.com2018-2026 Kevin Kauffman and Fred Weaver Direction Economie Management et direction Politique et gouvernement Réussite personnelle
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  • Why Most Real Estate Agents Will Never Have True Freedom (And What to Do About It)
    Mar 2 2026
    You're busy. You're closing deals. You might even be making great money. But are you actually building toward freedom — or just building a faster treadmill? Kevin Kauffman sits down with returning guest and real estate veteran Chris Bowers for a raw, no-fluff conversation about what it really takes to get to the next level in both production and building residual income through recruiting at eXp Realty. Chris has been chasing a specific goal for six years — $50,000 a month in passive income — and he's getting close. But what makes this episode hit different is the moment he realizes mid-conversation that it was never about the money at all. It's about time. And that distinction changes everything about how you approach your business. Key themes from this episode: The difference between flexibility and actual freedom — and why most agents are lying to themselves about which one they have Why the number of no's you get in recruiting is directly tied to the income you make — and how to get emotionally ready to handle more of them How clarity on your "one thing" makes tactics irrelevant — and why the agents who win aren't necessarily the smartest, just the most focused The ego risk of building at eXp vs. the capital risk of traditional brokerage ownership — and which one is actually harder to swallow What happens when you hit 200 agents in your organization and realize what got you there won't get you to the next level Why vision without daily action is just daydreaming — and how to close the gap between the life you want and the one you're actually living If you've been telling yourself you don't have time to recruit, this episode is a direct challenge to that story. Chris and Kevin break down why recruiting isn't a separate business — it IS the business — and how 30 focused minutes a day can change your financial trajectory more than another year of grinding production. Ready to learn more about what building at eXp could look like for you? Head to nextlevelagents.com/exp to get the full picture. ​​Please leave us a review at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ratethispodcast.com/nla⁠⁠⁠⁠
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    50 min
  • How Real Estate Agents Are Using Social Media to Generate Free Leads on Autopilot
    Feb 26 2026
    If you think social media is optional for real estate agents in 2025, this episode is going to challenge that assumption — hard. Guest host Carly Pederson sits down with Kaitlin Ward, a top-producing lender with Summit Funding on the West Coast, who has built the majority of her business through organic social media. No ad spend, no fancy production equipment — just a consistent strategy, a clear message, and the courage to show up. Kaitlin and Carly break down exactly how agents and lenders can stop overthinking social media and start treating it like the lead gen machine it actually is. From what to post, how often to post, how to turn your Instagram DMs into a full-blown CRM, and why starting a brand-new business page is one of the biggest mistakes agents make — this episode is packed with actionable, no-fluff strategy. Key Topics Covered: Why social media's reach is infinitely more powerful than mailers, door knocking, or open houses The 3 E's framework: Educational, Emotional, and Entertaining content that actually converts Why storytelling beats "Just Listed / Just Sold" posts every single time How often to post (and how to realistically build up to a consistent cadence without burning out) How to use Instagram DMs as a free CRM — including flagging, sorting, and lead labeling Why you should NEVER abandon your existing personal social media page to start a new business one How Carly made an extra $100K last year from social media with fewer than 1,000 followers The "silent audience" — why the people not liking or commenting are often your warmest leads Whether you're just getting started or you've been posting inconsistently and wondering why it's not converting, this episode gives you a clear, honest framework to make social media work for your business — starting today. Learn more about Next Level Agents / eXp Realty: https://nextlevelagents.com/exp/ ​​Please leave us a review at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ratethispodcast.com/nla⁠⁠⁠⁠
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    41 min
  • How to Use Retargeting Ads to Dominate Your Local Real Estate Market and Win More Listings
    Feb 23 2026
    Your social media isn't underperforming because you're not posting enough — it's underperforming because most agents are missing the single strategy that makes social media actually convert into listings. Retargeting, hyperlocal brand-building, and ads that don't look like ads are what separates the agents who are recognized everywhere in their community from the ones who are still grinding for every lead. In this episode, co-host Carly Pederson sits down with Tim Chermak, founder of Platform Marketing, to break down the system behind social media marketing that generates real business. Tim has spent over a decade working exclusively with real estate agents, and this conversation gets specific — from why 80–90% of your ads should be retargeting ads, to how listing video views can change your price reduction conversations, to why some Platform clients are charging 4% commissions in today's market and still winning listings. Key topics covered in this episode: What retargeting actually is — and why it's the most powerful tool most agents aren't using Why the content that builds the deepest trust has nothing to do with real estate How 50,000–100,000+ listing video views changes the way you talk to sellers about price Why lead generation creates a time liability — and what strategy actually scales at high production levels The case for charging more than 3% commission when your marketing can back it up Why Platform Marketing only works with one agent per market — and what that means for the quality of the strategy A free, actionable tip you can use today even if a managed marketing program isn't an option If you've been showing up on social media without seeing real business results, this episode gives you a clear picture of what's missing and what to do about it. If you're ready to take your business to the next level, learn more about the NLA community at nextlevelagents.com/exp. Connect with Tim Chermak and Platform Marketing: Website: https://platform.marketing Podcast: The Platform Marketing Show (available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube) Interested in learning more about Platform Marketing? Reach out to Carly Pederson directly: Carly@CarlyPedersonTeam.com ​​Please leave us a review at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ratethispodcast.com/nla⁠⁠⁠⁠
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    55 min
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