Why are so many young people questioning their faith—and what does it take to confront the toughest questions about God, truth, and culture? For today’s conversation, Pastor Greg Laurie talks with Christian apologist—and mentor to the late Charlie Kirk—Frank Turek for an honest, timely conversation about faith, evidence, and the future of the church.

Together, Pastor Greg and Frank dig deep into what’s fueling today’s “deconstruction” trend among Christian youth, why so many leave the church after high school, and how technology, college campuses, and cultural pressures challenge the foundations of belief. No question is off-limits: from “Does science contradict the Bible?” to “Why does God allow suffering?” and “How do we respond to the transgender movement?”—every topic is handled with compassion and real-world insight.

Frank also talks about his friend and mentee, Charlie Kirk, reflecting on his legacy and the explosive spiritual awakening our country has experienced following his tragic death. This conversation isn’t just for pastors or intellectuals—instead it’s for anyone seeking to grow in faith, love for their neighbor, and meaningfully engage as believers unafraid to compromise in a changing world.

Learn more about CrossExamined and Frank’s work here: https://crossexamined.org/.

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TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Trans Issue: Why Did It Emerge & Wane?
01:13 Cross Examine Ministry: Apologetics on Campus
02:09 Christian Colleges & The Drift from Evangelicalism
03:04 The Sinai Example: What Makes a True Christian
07:02 Why Do Christian Youth Leave Church?
09:25 Discipleship Defined: Beyond Fire Insurance
10:28 Science vs. Christianity: Asking the Right Questions
13:39 Theology by Slogan: Making People Think
15:26 Atheism’s Origin: Head vs. Heart Problem
17:00 Christopher Hitchens: “There Is No God, and I Hate Him”
20:01 Spiritual Awakening Among Young People
22:34 Charlie Kirk’s Impact & Medal of Freedom Story
29:44 Politics vs. Gospel: Charlie Kirk’s Perspective
31:41 Pastoral Silence: Why Avoid Addressing Controversy?
34:36 Churchianity vs. Christianity: Focus on Kingdom
40:15 Why Does God Allow Suffering?
43:40 Hell & God's Justice: Grace, Not Just Goodness
45:51 Forgiveness: Erica Kirk’s Powerful Memorial Moment
48:49 Are All Religions the Same?
55:03 Transgender Trend: Roots & Pastoral Response
58:33 What Drives Children to Transition?
61:53 Frank Turek’s Motivation for Campus Apologetics
63:17 Winning Souls, Not Arguments
64:07 Predestination vs. Free Will: Salvation Debate
66:27 Knowledge on Fire: Why Effective Preaching Matters
71:07 Passing the Baton: Mentoring the Next Generation

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What does it mean to spiral—and is it actually possible to find blessings amid devastating loss? On today’s episode of The Greg Laurie Show, Pastor Greg welcomes author and pastor Levi Lusko for an honest—and often humorous—conversation about grief, calling, leadership, and the surprising ways faith can sustain us through the worst life has to offer.

Together, Pastor Greg and Levi trace their family’s intertwined journeys through ministry, loss, and redemption. From the nostalgia of swapping cassette tapes and youth ministry war stories to the raw pain of losing a child or parent, the two open up about suffering, resilience, and the pursuit of God’s purpose in real life. This conversation is both a balm for broken hearts and an encouragement for leaders, parents, or anyone wondering how to move forward when life gets overwhelming.

Find Levi’s book on loss, Through the Eyes of a Lion, here:

https://levilusko.com/through-the-eyes-of-a-lion.

Check out Blessed are the Spiraling here:

https://www.blessedarethespiraling.com/.

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TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 How a Missed Mentorship Changed Everything
02:33 First Meeting: From Fan to Friend
04:33 Youth Ministry: “If You Can Preach to Teens…”
06:38 Choosing Montana Over Harvest: Defining Your Calling
08:05 Walking Through Grief: The Loss of Christopher
12:05 “Seeing Through the Eyes of a Lion”: Lenya’s Legacy
14:09 Navigating Grief: Guilt, Healing, and Connection
16:33 Losing His Dad: “A Different Kind of Grief”
17:51 Writing About Pain: Impact Beyond Tragedy
18:25 “Success Builds Walls, Failure Builds Bridges”
21:44 How Personal Loss Changed Pastoral Ministry
22:09 Honoring Lost Loved Ones by Healing
23:50 Brokenness, Empathy, and Leadership Growth
24:20 Separating Grief: The Laundry Pile Analogy
26:14 Hope in Heartbreak: “They’re Not Lost If You Know Where They Are”
29:09 Parenting and Calling: Raising Kids in Ministry
31:09 Marriage & Hydration: Keeping Relationships Alive
32:27 “Intimacy Is Into-Me-You-See”: Wisdom for Newlyweds
35:20 Message Prep: Connections, Curiosity & “Move It or Lose It”
37:45 Preaching & Writing: The Unique Joys of Both
39:46 Writing Habits: Seinfeld, Deadlines, and Staying Creative
43:06 Staying Faithful: Why I Chose My Church Over Big Offers
45:23 New Book: “Blessed Are the Spiraling” and Midlife Crisis
47:38 From Fire to Significance: Shifting Life’s Focus
51:25 Movement Conference: Investing in the Next Generation
53:18 Learning to Champion Others, Not Compete
55:12 What’s Changed in Reaching Young People
58:16 “Make Your Bed”: Keystone Habits & Authentic Leadership
59:45 The Power of Challenge, Not Coddling
01:00:19 Last Meal? In-N-Out & Good Coffee
01:01:11 Movies, Heroes, and Becoming Yoda
01:02:19 Pulpit Bloopers: Unusual Booty and Other Slip-Ups
01:05:08 Hope, Legacy, and What’s Next

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What’s it like to lead with faith in a time of global upheaval? Today’s episode of The Greg Laurie Show features U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio like you’ve never seen him before. An honest and wide-ranging conversation about history, hope, and the challenges of leadership in turbulent times—you’re not going to want to miss this one.

Fresh off the historic release of the hostages in Israel, Secretary Rubio reflects on the behind-the-scenes courage and teamwork that made the miracle possible—giving us a rare glimpse into the high-pressure world of international negotiation and the personalities driving world-changing decisions. But this conversation goes far deeper than politics: together Pastor Greg and Secretary Rubio also dig into the impact of a God-centered marriage, the importance of strong families, and how faith shapes everyday choices at the highest levels of power.

Secretary Rubio also opens up about his own family’s story, the life-changing influence of his grandfather, and the Scriptures that anchor him during moments of anxiety and sleepless nights. Don’t miss their discussion on the rise of antisemitism, America’s founding principles, and the dangers of political indoctrination facing today’s youth—plus some lighthearted moments featuring Secretary Rubio’s favorite movies, books, and fun presidential history.

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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Rights Come from the Creator, Not Government
02:20 Hostage Release: Behind the Scenes with President Trump
05:32 Delivering the Gospel at Charlie Kirk’s Memorial—Without Notes
06:21 Marriage: Reflecting God’s Love and Sacramental Importance
09:03 Family Breakdown and America’s Social Ills
10:59 Grandfather’s Influence: From Rural Cuba to U.S. Politics
13:28 Fear, Faith, and Knowing How the Story Ends
16:28 Are We Nearing the End Times? A Global Perspective
17:30 Rising Anti-Semitism & Lessons from the Holocaust
20:05 Youth & the Allure of Socialism—Campus Controversies
22:01 Faith on Display: Scripture Tweets and Daily Discipline
24:23 The Cost and Courage of Living Out Faith Publicly
26:03 Why America Is Unique: Rights, Government, and Founding Principles
28:04 Lightning Round: Comfort Foods and Favorite Films
30:12 Presidential Leadership: Right People at the Right Time
33:00 How Marco Rubio Wants to Be Remembered
34:18 Prayer for Leadership and Closing Reflections

SHORT SUMMARY:

In this episode, Pastor Greg Laurie interviews Secretary of State Marco Rubio about the historic release of the hostages in Israel, the importance of faith and family, and the threats facing both American society and global security. Rubio shares personal stories about his family, explains how his Christian beliefs help him navigate fear and uncertainty, and discusses the enduring values of America’s founding principles. The conversation also dives into topics like anti-Semitism, the rise of socialism among young people, and the impact of strong marriages and communities. From global politics to everyday faith, this episode offers a candid look at leadership, conviction, and hope in challenging times.

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