In this special Christmas mini-episode, host Shawn Tuma is joined by his son, Ryan, for a candid conversation about cyber safety at home: screen-time limits, risky chats in games, not believing everything online, and why he doesn’t have his own YouTube channel—practical lessons that mirror how GCs and CISOs collaborate to govern risk at work. See how the same principles of governance, communication, and accountability that improve enterprise cyber resilience also protect our families online. Short, light, and useful—perfect for the holidays.
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From the Department of 'No' to a Seat at the Table: Mastering the Art of CISO Leadership

CISO Ian Schneller joins host Shawn Tuma to share how CISOs evolve into true business partners by aligning security with enterprise goals and collaborating closely with GCs and legal on AI governance, risk, and board communications. Hear practical guidance on moving from “defend” to “enable secure growth,” framing board updates from a position of strength, measuring effectiveness vs. risk, and using a decide-and-act mindset to drive outcomes. Perfect for CISOs, GCs, and security leaders who want to speak the language of the business and lead together.

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In this episode of The GC+CISO Connection Show, host Shawn Tuma sits down with Janie Aggas, Global Business Information Security Officer (BISO) at CBRE, to explore the critical role of collaboration between legal, cybersecurity, and business teams. Janie shares her unique career journey, from real estate law to cybersecurity leadership, and how her role as a BISO bridges the gap between business strategy and cybersecurity priorities.

Janie discusses the importance of building strong relationships between legal and cyber teams, the evolving role of BISOs in aligning cybersecurity with business goals, and how her recent Master’s in Cybersecurity Law and Public Policy from Texas A&M has shaped her approach to leadership. She also provides actionable tips for fostering collaboration, preparing for board presentations, and navigating the complexities of emerging technologies like AI and NFTs.

Whether you're a CISO, BISO, GC, or legal professional, this episode is packed with valuable insights on how to build stronger partnerships and drive organizational success.