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  • #254: Tiffany & Co – Pantone 1847 Is Their Color

    #254: Tiffany & Co – Pantone 1847 Is Their Color
    Apr 29 2026
    Tiffany & Co was one of the first companies to introduce fixed pricing. Then became the luxury brand of New York. Dave Young: Welcome to the Empire Builders Podcast, teaching business owners the not so secret techniques that took famous businesses from mom-and-pop to major brands. Stephen Semple is a marketing consultant, story collector and storyteller. I’m Stephen’s sidekick and business partner, Dave Young. Before we get into today’s episode, a word from our sponsor, which is, well, it’s us, but we’re highlighting ads we’ve written and produced for our clients, so here’s one of those. [Maven Roofing Ad] Dave Young: Welcome back to the Empire Builders Podcast. Stephen Semple is right there. I’m Dave Young and we’re talking about empires. We’re talking about the businesses that started small and grew into empires. And today we’re talking about, man, these guys have been, I mean, a long time ago. I don’t know. I’m anxious to know the history because I don’t know the history. Stephen Semple: 1837. Dave Young: 1837. And I’m trying to think if I’ve ever been in one of their stores. Maybe. I’ve walked by a couple of them. Stephen Semple: Yes. Dave Young: We’re talking about Tiffany & Co. So that one, Breakfast at Tiffany’s, the little blue box, all of that. Stephen Semple: All of that. Well, and here’s the thing I’m going to say. Anytime I’m in a mall or somewhere that has a Tiffany’s, I always go and take a look at the display windows. And I cannot tell you how many photographs I have of Tiffany’s display windows. Tiffany’s display windows. Dave Young: I have walked by Tiffany’s. Yeah, yeah. Stephen Semple: Tiffany display windows are the best in the business. No one does it better. I will go out of my way to go see one. I probably have got 50 pictures in my phone of Tiffany displays. They’re spectacular. And they update them. Their website, here’s one of the other things that’s crazy. I don’t know how often they update their website, but I continually go back and take a look at their website and it’s almost always completely redone with brand new photography, brand new feature items, brand new stories. But here’s the interesting thing. So they were founded in 1837. Today there are about 300 stores worldwide, 14,000 employees. They do five billion in revenue. A chunk of the company was bought by LVMH back in 2021 at a valuation of $16 billion. Everyone recognizes the Tiffany Blue Box. It’s a part of pop culture. And it’s frankly, probably one of the largest, most recognizable luxury brands on the planet. Did not start out in jewelry. Dave Young: Oh, gosh. Oh, gosh. Now I have to guess. Stephen Semple: What do you think it started out as? Dave Young: Probably not… It was 1837, so it wasn’t cars. Stephen Semple: 1837. Dave Young: No? Stephen Semple: No. Nope. They started off selling stationary, paper, ribbons, and small little items. Dave Young: Really? I was about to guess watches, but that… No. Stephen Semple: Yeah. Dave Young: They’d still be making watches if that was the case. Stationary. Stephen Semple: Yeah. It was located on Broadway in New York, and it was originally Tiffany, Young and Ellis. And the first day they sold $4.98 worth of stuff. Dave Young: Wow, that’s a start. Stephen Semple: Yeah. Dave Young: Got to start somewhere. Stephen Semple: But here’s some of the first bold things that they did. So we got to remember, it’s 1800s and shopping was a negotiation game. Everything was bartered. Okay? What they did, and retailers would argue with you at that time, it was part of the fun, part of the adventure. You can imagine this conversation, right? People like negotiating. They want to feel like they’re getting a deal. Even today, how often do we hear this? They want to feel like they’re getting a deal. And here’s what Tiffany’s did. They said, “Screw that. We’re introducing fixed pricing. No haggling, no exceptions.” And at that time, that was considered crazy. Now, it’s interesting. Here in Canada, along a similar timeline, company which is no longer around today, but grew to being one of the biggest businesses in Canada was a retailer called Eaton’s, and it was founded by Timothy Eaton. Same thing, fixed pricing. Fixed pricing. Dave Young: You know what you’re ...
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    21 min
  • #253: Foxy Box (part 2) – Becoming a Franchise

    #253: Foxy Box (part 2) – Becoming a Franchise
    Apr 22 2026
    Sometimes you need to listen to the universe when it is trying to help you. Kyla Dufrense listened and survived. Dave Young: Welcome to The Empire Builders Podcast, teaching business owners the not-so-secret techniques that took famous businesses from mom and pop to major brands. Stephen Semple is a marketing consultant, story collector, and storyteller. I’m Stephen’s sidekick and business partner, Dave Young. Before we get into today’s episode, a word from our sponsor, which is, well, it’s us, but we’re highlighting ads we’ve written and produced for our clients. So here’s one of those. [Handyside Ad] Speaker 6: Told you, Brian. Brian: Told me what? Speaker 6: This is part two of last week’s episode. Brian: Oh yeah, and it was getting good. Speaker 6: If you missed it, go back and listen to part one first. Take it away, fellas. Stephen Semple: It’s funny how often we see this mistake. It’s even interesting. There’s a famous marketer, Al Rice, and Jack Trout wrote a book called The 22 Immutable Laws of Branding. And one of the things that they talk about in the book is, don’t extend brand. Look, it’s amazing how many times companies try to just go, “Well, let’s just make it this bigger thing and we’ll talk…” And it almost always never works. You’re much better off multiplying the thing that you do well than trying to add around the edges. Kyla Dufresne: Yeah, you got to keep it simple. I will tell you, it is very challenging to train one person to be the best at five different services. Really it is. Stephen Semple: Absolutely. Kyla Dufresne: We know how to train someone to be the best waxer in a five-day program. We can turn someone with the right personality, obviously, but we can turn somebody into a fantastic hair removal expert in five days. To be great at nails and lashes and hair, I mean, God, that takes a really long time. And then you want to go, okay, you have to do all of these things. How do you get one person to be great at all of those things? You’re going to be putting out a mediocre product, maybe, for the convenience of a one-stop shop. Truly, you can’t be the best at all things. Stephen Semple: Well, and I’m going to put it to you another way too, because that’s the operational challenge. I’m even going to look at it from the marketing challenge. So, what we want to be, in anytime we’re marketing a business, we want to be thought of first and we want to be like the best, right? But thought of first for what? Now, if it’s thought of first for being a salon, well, there’s lots of salons, right? Thought of first for waxing, that’s a little bit different, right? And it’s way easier than to lean into that and really be liked about, because even the whole thing, Foxy Box, people like that. Well, now it’s this other name that was a little bit safer and more conservative because we’re in this area. It was also harder to be liked for that. Kyla Dufresne: Yeah. Stephen Semple: So this whole strategy had of being thought of first for this thing and liked the most for this, you had to deviate from that. And I’m going to say, even if you got the operations going, I don’t think it would’ve been a success. Kyla Dufresne: Yeah, for sure. Stephen Semple: In fact, I think if you got the operations going, it would’ve been a trap because it would’ve worked okay. I actually think the universe gave you a gift of it burning to the ground, and causing you to go, wait a minute, I should just focus. I think the universe was actually looking out for you there. Kyla Dufresne: Oh, for sure. Yeah. It was bringing me back to my roots. And I mean, I learned so many lessons in there. Every experience shapes the leader that we are today. I used to lose so much sleep. I used to cry a lot and now I just don’t. I always say to people, things don’t get easier, we just get better at tackling them. Stephen Semple: Yeah, for sure. Kyla Dufresne: Your business doesn’t get easier. At the top of one mountain, you’re at the bottom of the next. Literally it’s just a constant like, okay, now what’s my next challenge I have to face? But the great thing about that experience is, I lost a lot of sleep. I got a lot of gray hairs, I cried a lot, and now I’m ...
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    24 min
  • #252: Foxy Box (part 1) – Powerful & Energized

    #252: Foxy Box (part 1) – Powerful & Energized
    Apr 15 2026
    Kyla Dufresne built up Foxy Box from the dining room table to 24 locations by creating an experience and culture of comfort and trust. Dave Young: Welcome to the Empire Builders Podcast, teaching business owners the not so secret techniques that took famous businesses from mom and pop to major brands. Stephen Semple is a marketing consultant, story collector, and storyteller. I’m Stephen’s sidekick and business partner, Dave Young. Before we get into today’s episode, a word from our sponsor, which is, well, it’s us, but we’re highlighting ads we’ve written and produced for our clients. So here’s one of those. [Wagmore Garage Doors Ad] Stephen Semple: Hey, it’s Stephen Semple here with the Empire Builders Podcast, and I’m here with Kyla Dufresne instead of David Young, which is always so much fun. So we’ve given Dave a little bit of time off. And so we’re going to be speaking about, instead of one of these big companies and going back in time, instead we’re going to be speaking to an entrepreneur that I met at the Canadian franchise show and we got chatting and I was looking at our business and this is going to be a great story. I’m so excited. And I want you to tell me the name of your business and how you came up with the name. Kyla Dufresne: Oh my gosh, you’re setting me up for big expectations for your listeners, so I better … So I’m Kyla. I’m the founder and CEO of Foxy Box Laser & Wax Bars. We are a hair removal concept that specializes in the art of the Brazilian. And I always say we’re not just a transaction for hair removal. We really are a movement to make people feel powerful and energized in their bodies. We have 24 locations open across four provinces here in Canada with our- Stephen Semple: Yeah, just I want us to think about this for a moment. 24 locations, and I’m going to say it. It’s an idea that if a lot of people were presented with the idea, I think they would go, “Really? Franchises?” And it’s like, “Yeah, really 24 franchises,” which is an awesome number. That’s not an easy number to get to. Kyla Dufresne: It’s not an easy number to get to. I think for us, a lot of it was, a lot of our success was timing as well, Stephen, because when I started this business, the hair removal concept was not a concept really in Canada. The US, they’ve got one big player called European Wax Center. They’ve been around for years and years and years, but this concept was a new thing here in Canada. So truly a big part of our success, one is, I mean, obviously our culture and our brand and the success of our franchisees, but it was also timing because we were one of the first hair removal concepts on the market here in Canada. So we really brought this business model to the market, so I think that was a big part of our growth to get to 25 locations within a five-year time span, truly. Stephen Semple: It’s been pretty quick when you think about … Because you started off with one location that was your location, correct? Kyla Dufresne: You got it. I started off actually, I don’t even know if you could call it a location. A house, that’s where I started it. In the dining room of my house where I had four roommates, there was a dining room area off of my kitchen. I set up a table there and a curtain and got to work building Foxy Box. I joked on when I was speaking with someone not long ago on their podcast that when I built Foxy Box, I always said, “Oh, come see me.” I always was Foxy Box. And so I would give my business cards, but it was my cell phone number on it and then Foxy Box was inside this little weird room in my house. And so I’d have people showing up thinking that they had just showed up at Fight Club and not Foxy Box. Like, “Where in the hell [inaudible 00:04:39].” Stephen Semple: Am I in some strange room in Amsterdam? What the heck’s going on here? Yeah. Kyla Dufresne: They were like, “What is this place?” But truly, those early days was what shaped and formed the culture that we have today because when I reflect back, that experience that I was giving to customers, I had to make people feel confident and comfortable enough to take their pants off in the dining room of my shared house to get a...
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    27 min
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