When suffering silences us, where do we turn? Drawing from his forthcoming book And the Sea Was No More, biblical scholar, professor, and author, Dave Nienhuis Nienhuis reflects on suffering, community, and the “victory narrative” that can keep us from telling the truth. This conversation is a powerful look at how God meets us in chaos and how faith makes room for struggle and vulnerability.

Show Notes:

• And the Sea Was No More by David Nienhuis (available for preorder; releases September 22, 2026)
• The Psalms (especially Psalm 69)
• Dark Night of the Soul, St. John of the Cross
• Mental health support
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What if addiction isn’t just about substances—but about the human soul?

In this episode of The Echoes Podcast, Marcus Goodyear and Camille Hall-Ortega sit down with bestselling author, Episcopal priest, psychotherapist, and Enneagram teacher Ian Morgan Cron to explore a surprising and deeply human idea: we are all addicts. Drawing from his latest book, The Fix, Ian reframes addiction as a misdirected longing—a search for connection, meaning, and ultimately, God.

This conversation also explores the connection between the Enneagram and addiction, the power of self-awareness, and why “hurt people” may be uniquely equipped to help others heal.

Show Notes:

• The Typology Podcast with Ian Morgan Cron
• IanMorganCron.com
• The Fix by Ian Morgan Cron
• The Road Back to You by Ian Morgan Cron
• The Grace of Letting Go, audio from Ian Morgan Cron's 2025 retreat at Laity Lodge
• The Big Book from Alcoholics Anonymous
• Carl Jung and 12 Steps origins
• Chasing Francis: A Pilgrim’s Tale by Ian Morgan Cron
• “I do not understand what I do...” Romans 7:15-20
• Robert “Bob” Goff
• Enneagram types
• Introducing the Enneagram with Richard Rohr

Summary

Largely due to technology, many of us feel more connected than ever—but we also feel less known than ever. In this episode, Andy Crouch talks with us about AI, anxiety, loneliness, and what technology can never replace. Drawing on The Life We’re Looking For, Andy explores why “formation requires friction” and why real hope begins with recovering a more personal, relational, and loving way of life.

Listen now and hear a hopeful vision for what it means to stay human.

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SHOW NOTES:

• Andy Crouch, The Life We’re Looking For: Reclaiming Relationship in a Technological World
• Andy Crouch, Culture Making: Recovering Our Creative Calling
• Ronald A. Heifetz, Leadership Without Easy Answers
• Ronald Heifetz, Marty Linsky, and Alexander Grashow, The Practice of Adaptive Leadership
• Luke 1:26-42
• Hebrews 4:15
• Mark 10:45
• John 12:6
• Andy Crouch, The Tech-Wise Family
• Christianity Today – Andy Crouch

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