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A podcast about building new faith. Its all about construction, but sometimes that means you have to deconstruct a little. Questions, exploration, mystery...Copyright 2024 All rights reserved. Spiritualité
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  • Ep. 254 - Timothy McMahan King "What Are Drugs For? An Exploration of Stolen Fire" pt. 1
    Nov 11 2026

    What if the relationship between Christianity and mind-altering substances is far more complicated than we've been taught?

    For much of modern Christian history, drugs and spirituality have been presented as fundamentally opposing forces. But is that opposition as ancient as we assume? And what happens when we begin examining the historical relationship between religious ritual, altered states of consciousness, and the human desire to encounter the divine?

    In Part One of our conversation, we're joined by Timothy McMahan King, Episcopal deacon and author of What Are Drugs For? An Exploration of Stolen Fire, for a fascinating exploration of drugs, religion, and the history of human consciousness.

    Together, we examine the surprising intersections of ancient religious practices, sacred anointing oils, and the possibility that psychoactive substances played a role in certain spiritual traditions. We also explore how religious institutions have shaped our understanding of which experiences are considered sacred and which are dismissed as dangerous or illegitimate.

    Along the way, we wrestle with some important questions:

    • What role have mind-altering substances played in humanity's religious history?
    • Is there historical evidence connecting psychoactive substances to ancient religious rituals?
    • How did Christianity develop its modern attitudes toward drugs and altered consciousness?
    • Who gets to determine whether a spiritual experience is authentic?
    • And what might we discover when we approach these questions with curiosity rather than fear?


    It's a conversation that challenges easy answers and invites us to reconsider the boundaries we've drawn between the sacred and the profane.

    About Our Guest

    Timothy McMahan King is an author, Episcopal deacon, and advocate whose work explores the intersection of spirituality, addiction, drug policy, and human flourishing. His book What Are Drugs For? An Exploration of Stolen Fire challenges conventional narratives about drugs and invites readers to consider their place in human culture, history, and spiritual experience.


    A New Chapter: This Is Who We Become

    After more than a decade of conversations on The Deconstructionists, we're preparing to begin something new.

    Our upcoming podcast, This Is Who We Become, explores the extraordinary moments that transform ordinary lives.

    Every life has a before. Every life has an after.

    Through intimate, deeply human conversations, we'll explore the experiences that change everything: loss, discovery, survival, transformation, and the unexpected events that reshape how we understand ourselves and the world.

    Launching December 2026.

    Visit our website and join the mailing list to be among the first to hear our new episodes:

    Website: https://www.thisiswhowebecome.com

    Have a story worth sharing? Nominate yourself or someone else:

    https://www.thisiswhowebecome.com/nominatesomeone

    Thank you for being part of The Deconstructionists community. We're so grateful for the curiosity, generosity, and openness you've brought to these conversations over the years.



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    35 min
  • Ep. 253 - The History of Demons pt. 2
    Oct 31 2026

    The History of Demons, Part Two: From Scripture to the Silver Screen | Halloween Special

    How did the spirits of the ancient world become the demons of modern nightmares?

    In the conclusion of our Halloween special, we pick up after our exploration of the Book of Enoch and turn to the New Testament, early Christianity, and the centuries of interpretation that followed.

    From “unclean spirits” and the story of Legion to debates about pagan gods, fallen angels, and Lucifer, we examine how different texts and traditions became woven into a familiar supernatural story. We also explore Revelation’s symbolic, apocalyptic imagery—and why reading it in its historical and literary context matters.

    Then we follow demons beyond scripture, through demonology, witch trials, literature, and modern horror. How much of what we picture today comes from ancient religious texts, and how much comes from the stories told afterward?

    In part two:

    • Demons, possession, and exorcism in the New Testament.
    • Legion, Beelzebul, and the language of “unclean spirits.”
    • Early Christian interpretations of pagan gods and demonic powers.
    • How Satan, Lucifer, fallen angels, and demons became connected in later traditions.
    • Revelation’s imagery and the importance of understanding apocalyptic literature.
    • Demonology and witch trials.
    • The influence of Dante, Milton, and the Faust tradition.
    • Modern horror—and Pazuzu’s journey from ancient protective figure to cinematic terror.


    The beings we call demons have never had one universally agreed-upon history. Their story is also a story about how human beings explain suffering, imagine evil, and give shape to the unknown.

    Research resources and historical writings

    • Justin Martyr — Second Apology, especially chapter 5. An early Christian account connecting transgressing angels and demons. This is a primary historical source rather than modern academic analysis.
    • https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0127.htm
    • Augustine — The City of God, Book IX. An influential Christian discussion of demons and their supposed role as intermediaries. This is a primary historical source.
    • https://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf102.iv.IX.html
    • The Metropolitan Museum of Art — “Pazuzu: Beyond Good and Evil.” Historical context for comparing the ancient Pazuzu with his modern horror counterpart.
    • https://www.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/listings/2014/assyria-to-iberia/blog/posts/pazuzu


    Biblical texts explored

    • Mark 5:1–20: The story of Legion.
    • Matthew 12:22–32: Beelzebul and accusations concerning Jesus’ exorcisms.
    • Isaiah 14: A passage central to later interpretations of Lucifer.
    • Jude: References relevant to Enochic traditions and transgressing angels.
    • Revelation 12: The dragon, heavenly conflict, and apocalyptic symbolism.


    Literary works discussed

    • Dante Alighieri — Inferno.
    • John Milton — Paradise Lost.
    • The Faust tradition.


    These literary works are explored for their influence on popular imagination, distinct from ancient scripture and historical evidence.

    New to this series? Start with part one for Mesopotamian spirits, Greek and Persian traditions, the Watchers, and the Book of Enoch.

    If you enjoyed our Halloween special leave a rating or review, and share both episodes with someone curious about the history behind the things that scare us.


    Be sure to join the mailing list so you don't miss out on our brand new podcast coming soon - This Is Who We Become at thisiswhowebecome.com



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    1 h et 10 min
  • Ep. 252 - The History of Demons pt. 1
    Oct 30 2026

    The History of Demons, Part One: Ancient Spirits and the Watchers | Halloween Special

    Before there was The Exorcist, there was Pazuzu. Before demons became synonymous with fallen angels, ancient cultures told very different stories about the unseen beings surrounding them.

    In part one of our Halloween special, we trace the history of demons from ancient Mesopotamia through Greek and Persian traditions and into the religious world of ancient Judaism.

    Along the way, we encounter protective demons, dangerous spirits, mysterious giants, and angels who cross a forbidden boundary. We also explore the Book of Enoch—a text that helped shape influential ideas about evil spirits, yet was excluded from most Christian biblical canons while remaining scripture in the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo tradition.

    This isn’t an attempt to settle whether demons exist. It’s an exploration of how people’s understanding of their origins, nature, and purpose has changed across thousands of years.

    In part one:

    • Mesopotamian spirits and the dangers of applying modern definitions to ancient beliefs.
    • Lamashtu, Pazuzu, and the use of frightening beings for protection.
    • The Greek daimōn and the changing language of the supernatural.
    • Zoroastrian traditions and the complexities of tracing religious influence.
    • Genesis 6, the “sons of God,” and the Nephilim.
    • The Book of Enoch’s Watchers, giants, and explanation for evil spirits.
    • Why Enoch remained scripture in Ethiopian Christianity while most other Christian traditions did not include it in their Bibles.


    Research resources

    • ORACC — Ancient Mesopotamian Gods and Goddesses. Scholarly reference material on Mesopotamian religion and supernatural beings.
    • https://oracc.museum.upenn.edu/amgg/
    • The Metropolitan Museum of Art — “Pazuzu: Beyond Good and Evil.” Pazuzu’s protective role and his relationship to Lamashtu.
    • https://www.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/listings/2014/assyria-to-iberia/blog/posts/pazuzu
    • The Metropolitan Museum of Art — “Amulet with a Lamashtu Demon.” Material evidence of ancient protective practices.
    • https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/326961
    • Encyclopaedia Iranica — “DĒW.” A scholarly reference on demons in Iranian and Zoroastrian traditions.
    • https://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/dew/
    • Israel Antiquities Authority — The Leon Levy Dead Sea Scrolls Digital Library. A manuscript archive relevant to Second Temple Judaism and Enochic traditions.
    • https://www.deadseascrolls.org.il/explore-the-archive/


    Primary texts explored

    • Genesis 6:1–4: The “sons of God” and the Nephilim.
    • 1 Enoch, especially chapters 6–16: The Watchers, the giants, and the spirits that emerge after their destruction.


    Ancient religious texts are discussed as evidence of historical beliefs, alongside modern scholarship and archaeological material.

    Coming in part two: We follow these traditions into the New Testament and explore how later theology, literature, and horror helped create the demons we recognize today.

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    1 h et 9 min
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