Brett Harrison helped scale FTX US before founding Architect and its exchange AX. AX is the first regulated centralised exchange for perpetual futures on traditional assets like gold, currencies, single stocks, and GPU compute, all settled on crypto rails. We talk about why perpetuals never took off in traditional finance, the innovator's dilemma facing CME, and how crypto infrastructure is quietly reshaping the $15T/day futures market.

In this episode, LI.FI Founder and CEO Philipp Zentner joins Saurabh to unpack where crypto is headed as tokenised assets proliferate across chains, standards, compliance rails and execution venues. They talk about why fragmentation is the default, why distribution is the hard part of tokenisation, and how LI.FI is building the orchestration layer that makes “asset A to asset B in one click” possible.

We also go deeper into how LI.FI evolved from aggregation into a broader coordination layer, including its multi-chain transaction rail, a domain-specific execution layer (Composer), and an open solver marketplace for intents. If the next era of crypto looks like more rails, more standards, and more asset representations, the winners may be the systems that can route reliably across all of it.

Timothy Stebbing is CTO of House of Doge and Director at the Dogecoin Foundation. He spent 25 years in open source development before joining Dogecoin in 2021.

In this episode, we discuss:

• Why Timothy tells his friends and family to stay away from crypto

• How 2% inflation was accidentally good design

• Why Bitcoin lost the payments battle

• The growth from five developers to over a hundred

• Managing a community of memers and institutional investors

• What Dogecoin is actually building