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The Co-Living Show

The Co-Living Show

De : Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain
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Co-living is one of the most misunderstood, and highest-potential, ​ strategies in residential real estate investing. Most investors hear the buzzwords, see the cash-flow claims, and immediately assume it’s either too risky, too operationally intense, or too complicated to scale. The truth is simpler: coliving work exceptionally well when built on systems, governed by operational clarity, and executed like a real business, not a side hustle. The Co-Living Show exists to make that clarity accessible for serious professionals who want smarter returns without gambling on guesswork.
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Hosted by BiggerPockets authors Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain, The Co-Living Show goes far beyond surface-level real estate content. This is the only real estate investing podcast dedicated exclusively to the economics, operations, regulations, and strategic frameworks that drive high-density co-living and shared housing at scale. Whether you’re new to the model or a high-earning, time-poor professional seeking exposure to a sophisticated cash-flow real estate strategy without becoming an operator, this show delivers the confidence, understanding, and insight needed to invest intelligently.
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Each episode takes you inside the real-world systems behind co-living performance. You’ll hear from operators running multi-market portfolios, attorneys specializing in zoning and compliance, designers who understand space optimization and profitability, lenders financing room-by-room rental strategies, and property managers and city officials shaping the future of affordable housing innovation. You’ll also hear from the Co-Living Cash Flow Community, everyday investors solving operational challenges and executing the exact frameworks discussed on the show.
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👉 Join the community: www.millermcswain.com/community
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There is no fluff here. No hype. No motivational noise. Every conversation is grounded in data, regulatory insight, operational logic, and investor-level clarity. Co-living is not “passive income.” It’s not a shortcut. It’s a system. And systems — when executed correctly — produce scalable, predictable returns that outperform traditional rental models. This is not speculative theory. It’s cash-flow real estate strategy in action.
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Craig brings acquisitions, underwriting, and market strategy. Miller brings operations, pricing systems, and standardization frameworks that make coliving scalable. Together, they deliver an operator’s perspective of an asset class most investors only see from the outside. As BiggerPockets authors, educators, and practitioners, they simplify complexity without diluting truth: coliving works, but only when done correctly.
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You’ll hear underwriting breakdowns, operator case studies, deal teardowns, regulatory realities, tenant strategy, market analysis, and the economic logic behind high-density residential investing. You’ll learn how to invest passively, partner with experienced operators, or simply understand the business model in depth, even if you never plan to manage a property yourself.
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The Co-Living Show does not claim co-living works.
It proves when, why, and under what conditions it works.
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If you want confidence instead of conjecture, systems instead of speculation, and clarity instead of chaos, this is your source of truth for professional-grade residential real estate investing.
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Subscribe and join thousands of investors building deeper understanding, stronger portfolios, and smarter strategies, without wasting time on noise.
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This is the future of residential real estate investing. And now you’ll finally understand how it works.
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Épisodes
  • EP 20 - How to Buy Off-Market Co-Living Deals (Seller Financing Explained)

    EP 20 - How to Buy Off-Market Co-Living Deals (Seller Financing Explained)
    Jun 24 2026

    Off-market deals are where the deeper discounts live, and in this episode, Craig and Miller bring on Robbie Faithe to show you exactly how to find and structure them. Robbie is an Albuquerque investor, broker, and private lender with 18 years in the business and a full off-market acquisition funnel.

    In this episode:

    • Why buying off-market juices your co-living returns
    • How seller financing works, and how to explain it without scaring the seller
    • Negotiating on payment instead of interest rate
    • Why you don't need your own cash to do a deal
    • The exact cold-call script Robbie uses with sellers
    • How to get started off-market with no license and no experience
    • The "return on energy" metric that drives Robbie's buy box
    • Plus: should you furnish your co-living rooms? (This week's listener question)

    Join our free Co-Living Community on Facebook: https://millermcswain.com/community

    Follow us on Instagram:

    • Miller: https://www.instagram.com/millermcswain/
    • Craig: https://www.instagram.com/craigcurelop/
    • Robbie: https://www.instagram.com/robbiefaitherealestate/
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    1 h et 4 min
  • EP 19 - Airbnb to Co-Living Conversion: Why These Arizona Flippers Made the Switch

    EP 19 - Airbnb to Co-Living Conversion: Why These Arizona Flippers Made the Switch
    Jun 18 2026

    What happens when two people with 26 years and 2,500+ flips under their belt discover co-living? For Brian and Gina Kingdeski, it meant ditching a struggling Arizona Airbnb portfolio and going all-in on building co-living homes from the ground up.

    In this episode, Brian and Gina explain why they made the switch, how they fill rooms faster than almost anyone in the space (8 rooms in under two weeks, often before closing), and the construction details that separate a beautiful, high-performing co-living home from a cold, chopped-up "dorm." They get into their 8-bedroom minimum, the ~$7,500/month gross on a converted 1,300 sq ft house, $1–2K/month cash flow per property, and how years of work with their lender let them become their own comps and skip the appraisal headaches most operators run into.

    You'll also hear the stuff nobody talks about: sewer scopes, three-inch vs. four-inch pipe, why en suites are worth it, using AI to stage bedrooms, and how their faith shapes both how they build and who they rent to.

    What we cover:

    • Airbnb vs. co-living: scalability, stress, and turnover costs
    • What it really costs to convert a short-term rental
    • The 8-bed, 3-bath formula and stabilization math
    • Floor plans that flow vs. hotel-style builds
    • Solving lender and appraisal problems on high-bedroom-count homes
    • A memorable housemate story and the lesson in compassion behind it

    Connect with Brian & Gina:
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@brianandginaking
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gina-kingdeski-48952511b/
    Website: https://trinitydesignconstruction.com/

    Here are some of Brian and Gina's latest projects on Padsplit website.
    https://www.padsplit.com/rooms-for-rent/listing/33417?utm_source=copylink&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=property_share&utm_content=33417&ref=1022554
    https://www.padsplit.com/rooms-for-rent/listing/31947?utm_source=copylink&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=property_share&utm_content=31947&ref=322872
    https://www.padsplit.com/rooms-for-rent/listing/32891?utm_source=copylink&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=property_share&utm_content=32891&ref=322872

    ChatGPT Prompt:
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hpy0-uFm49KIX8kz0mkIWYl4n673EjQn/view?usp=sharing

    Connect with the hosts:
    Miller: https://www.instagram.com/millermcswain/
    Craig: https://www.instagram.com/craigcurelop/

    Join The Co-Living Community:
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/thecolivingcommunity

    Enjoyed the episode? Leave a rating and review on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, it helps the show grow.
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    1 h et 6 min
  • EP 18 - From 65% to 95%: How Pascal Wagner Turned Around a Failing Co-Living Portfolio

    EP 18 - From 65% to 95%: How Pascal Wagner Turned Around a Failing Co-Living Portfolio
    Jun 11 2026

    Pascal Wagner bought 12 properties in two years, and then his occupancy dropped to 65%. In this episode, he shares how he booked a one-way ticket to Atlanta, fixed the bleeding, and rebuilt his portfolio into a 104-room operation running at 95% occupancy and a 25% cash-on-cash return.

    Pascal is a true problem-solver, and he gives a masterclass in co-living operations: how to keep houses clean, set firm standards, reduce churn, and build a team that lets you sleep at night.

    What you'll learn:

    • How deferred maintenance crushed his occupancy, and the turnaround that reversed it
    • The "graffiti train" effect and why small messes escalate fast
    • Building a "tattle culture" with cameras, fines, and clear expectations
    • Why he ditched house managers for dedicated cleaners
    • Welcome baskets, onboarding calls, and slashing 90-day churn
    • The case against pushing rents, and why filling rooms wins
    • Refinancing co-living, navigating appraisals, and staying upfront with lenders
    • His current thesis: buy ugly, renovate right, and pull your capital back out

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    🏠 Join our FREE co-living community: https://www.millermcswain.com/community

    📲 Follow us on Instagram:
    Miller McSwain — https://www.instagram.com/millermcswain
    Craig Curelop — https://www.instagram.com/craigcurelop

    🔗 Connect with Pascal Wagner on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pascalwagner

    Enjoyed the episode? Leave us a rating and review, it helps us reach more co-living operators.
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    1 h et 8 min
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