On anger as liberation, the difference between survival and freedom, and why personal transformation and social change are the two beats of the same heart. With Staci Haines, hosted by Amel Murphy.

What if healing alone will never be enough? And what if the anger you were told to manage is actually one of the most life-giving forces you carry?

Staci Haines has spent over three decades working at the intersection of trauma healing and social transformation. This conversation brings those threads into direct contact.

She and Amel speak about why we remain vulnerable to domination, how survival patterns shape our politics, and what it takes to build real agency. Staci draws a clear distinction between healing and liberation, and why one without the other is not enough.

They return again and again to the body; to anger as a life-giving force, and to the deeper longing for connection, dignity, and collective freedom that lives underneath it.

“Anger is a natural fuel with which to redignify ourselves.” — Staci Haines

EPISODE GUIDE

Opening and Staci’s guiding questions: systems, bodies, and power

Why we are vulnerable to domination: safety, belonging, and survival

Healing versus liberation: the difference and why both matter

Early conditioning: how systems shape what we practise without knowing

Embodiment as a path; returning to the body as a site of liberation

The “I” and the “we”; personal healing and collective responsibility

What we inherit and what we must transform

Anger as life force; boundaries, dignity, and saying no

Working with anger in practice: moving energy through the body

Closing seed; following the longing for wholeness and liberation

ABOUT STACI HAINES

Staci Haines is a somatics practitioner, organiser, and educator with over 30 years of experience working at the intersection of trauma healing, embodied leadership, and transformative justice. She is the founder of generative somatics and co-leads the Outer Work Project, supporting people to connect personal transformation with organised social change. Her work focuses on building individual and collective capacity for liberation. Staci is based in the United States.

https://generativesomatics.org/

https://www.outerworkproject.org/

https://www.stacihaines.com/ https://generationfive.org/

ABOUT AMEL MURPHY

Amel is the founder of Embodied Beings. She grew up between cultures, and it was the body, not the book, that first taught her what belonging feels like. For over twenty years, she has worked at the intersection of personal healing and collective change, supporting leaders, communities, and changemakers to come into right relationship with themselves, each other, and the world around them. This podcast was born from that inquiry, and from the belief that stories, told honestly, are medicine.

www.embodied-beings.com

https://www.linkedin.com/in/amelmurphy

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