Épisodes

  • The Next Phase
    Feb 19 2026

    I'm back from quite a hiaitus while I wrote my book.

    Now that's done, I'm pumped to preview what's on the way for the podcast in this short bonus episode.

    Thanks to Bensound for our jaunty intro and exit music, and to Fina Charleson for her production support.

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    12 min
  • 3 lessons in moving from mechanistic to magic, with Dan Murphy
    May 22 2023

    In this episode I talk to Daniel Murphy (no, not the alcohol bloke!), owner of the very successful and growing Movement Therapy group.

    In a strange twist, I used to manage music festivals, and Dan is definitely a connoisseur. We use music festivals as a case study in the different between "operational excellence" and creating customer magic. We walk through: 

    • Unnecessary organisational (and literal) "fences"
    • The gap that can often exist between "well run", efficient, and "good" customer experience
    • How to get your team to reach for magic 

    Thanks to Bensound for our jaunty intro and exit music, and to Fina Charleson for her production support.

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    50 min
  • 'Bossing It' with Saffron Meade
    May 8 2023

    Saffron Meade, founder of branding agency Saffron & Co. Creative, joins me to talk about her colourful ride experiencing "bosses", and then becoming "boss" herself. 

    We unpick some lessons along the way including:

    • How overwork cultures are often linked to fear
    • How important getting "stability" right is for the experience of your workers, including:
      • the emotional stability and predictability of leaders
      • the basics, including pay and legal compliance
    • How we use "stories" to approach conflict through a organisational "we", rather than right/wrong perspectives that is "owned" by you
    • Understanding the drives and motivations of your people, so that you can create an environment that meets their needs
    • Getting around respect and "family" first, so that work is part of your worker's wider flourishing
    • Not wanting minions: "What's the point of having a team if they can't contribute properly?"
    • The link between employee voice and business stagnation

    Thanks to Bensound for our jaunty intro and exit music, and to Fina Charleson for her production support.

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    50 min
  • What can work be? Origin stories with Meg and Dean from Human Systems Co.
    Apr 9 2023

    Podcast host Dean Williamson and Megan Storey from Human Systems Co. get together to discuss their own work stories (for a change), and what led them into the world of self-management, Teal, New Ways of Working, org change and culture.

    Thanks to Bensound for our jaunty intro and exit music, and to Fina Charleson for her production support.

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    54 min
  • Will your people work for free? Purpose, trust and trail running
    Apr 4 2023

    In this episode I'm joined by Tom Landon-Smith and Abhinandan Willis, who built Ultra-Trail Australia from humble beginnings into the world's third-largest endurance and trail running festival.

    It might seem like a strange place to talk about work, but we walk through gathering a team of great humans around a purpose, self-transcendence, trust, autonomy and much more. There's a lot here for leaders around scaling and organising principles if you choose to listen.

    Thanks to Bensound for our jaunty intro and exit music, and to Fina Charleson for her production support.

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    1 h
  • Blokes, bosses and digging - self-management in construction
    Nov 30 2022

    This episode we get into the concept of self-management, which is a step towards improving a lot of the issues we've heard about in previous episodes. We hear from Jess and Doug from Aquadec, a commercial irrigation company, about how they've approached self-management in working with us at Human Systems Co, 

    We talk about how leaders often need to change to bring about change, about honesty and transparency, and about how changing how you approach finance can change how you run your company.




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    1 h et 5 min
  • The life of a rogue - work and freelance journalism
    Sep 15 2022

    This episode I'm joined by the extremely talented (and famous!) international journalist Ann Deslandes.

    We hear about how the independent gig life stacks up as a survival strategy, and also what it's like trying to get paid when you're outside the system(s).

    I just loved this chat - she is witty and funny and hopeful, and I could've talked for so much longer! 

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    56 min
  • Beer and hermits - working in an advertising agency
    Sep 14 2022

    This episode we get inside the often-spoofed (for good reason, we find out) world of creative agencies. Hear how a lack of clarity and purpose can turn them into laughable shambles - the conversation about "we don't have enough work/we have too much work" killed me. We';; also cover "disguised" meetings, how to NOT do staff engagement, and building tents in open plan offices.

    Thanks to this episode's guest, "Roger", for his story.

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    41 min