In this episode of Transition to Zero, host Jared Schnader sits down with Stefan Tongur of Electreon to explore how wireless charging is reshaping the future of electric transportation. The conversation revisits Electreon's core breakthrough—wireless charging embedded directly into roadways—and explains how charging can occur not only when vehicles are parked, but also while they are in motion. This approach directly addresses persistent barriers to EV adoption, including range anxiety, long charging times, grid constraints, and the high cost of oversized batteries.

Stefan shares updates on Electreon's progress since their last appearance, highlighting the shift from technology validation to real-world commercialization. Key pilot projects in Michigan and Utah demonstrate over 99% reliability, successful energy transfer at scale, and growing collaboration with state DOTs, universities, utilities, and industry partners. These projects prove that electric roads can be deployed within existing permitting and construction processes, making them viable for U.S. infrastructure.

A major focus of the discussion is the business case for wireless charging roads. By turning existing roadways into revenue-generating assets, states and municipalities can potentially offset declining gas-tax revenues while reducing the need for massive charging depots and land-intensive megawatt chargers. International examples—particularly in France—show how toll-road operators can use electric roads to support heavy-duty trucks, reduce required charging space, and enable smaller, lower-cost vehicle batteries.

The episode also dives into the UCLA wireless charging project, a flagship U.S. deployment that brings together transit buses, multiple regional transit agencies, and future applications such as autonomous vehicles and shared mobility. By treating charging infrastructure as a shared platform rather than isolated assets, the UCLA project illustrates how wireless charging can unlock longer vehicle uptime, lower total cost of ownership, and more resilient grid operations—offering a glimpse of what scalable, seamless electrification could look like nationwide.

• Wireless charging can occur while vehicles are parked or in motion, eliminating downtime and range anxiety.

• Pilot projects in Michigan and Utah demonstrate high reliability and real-world feasibility within existing road construction processes.

• Electric roads can become revenue-generating infrastructure, helping replace gas-tax income and reduce land use for charging depots.

• International deployments, especially in France, show strong potential for heavy-duty trucking and toll-road business models.

• The UCLA project serves as a living lab for shared charging infrastructure across multiple transit agencies and future autonomous fleets.

• Wireless charging enables smaller batteries, lower vehicle costs, and higher fleet utilization, benefiting operators, utilities, and communities.

• Electreon – Wireless charging for electric vehicles: https://www.electreon.com

• CALSTART – National nonprofit focused on transportation decarbonization: https://calstart.org

• Michigan Department of Transportation (MDOT) – Partner on electric road pilot projects: https://www.michigan.gov/mdot

• Utah Inland Port & Utah State University – Partners on dynamic wireless charging pilots: https://inlandportauthority.utah.gov | https://www.usu.edu

• SAE International – J2954/3 Wireless Power Transfer Standard: https://www.sae.org

• UCLA Transportation Services – Transit and sustainability initiatives: https://transportation.ucla.edu

• VINCI Autoroutes (France) – Toll-road operator involved in electric road pilots: https://www.vinci-autoroutes.com

Podcast: Transition to Zero
Guest: Stefan Tongur, Electreon
Host: Jared Schnader

Keywords

Electric Vehicles, EV, Total Cost of Ownership, Reliability, Emissions Requirements, Paradigm Shift

Summary

The conversation delves into the evolving landscape of electric vehicles (EVs), focusing on the anticipated shift in perception regarding their total cost of ownership and reliability. With upcoming emissions requirements set for 2027, there is a growing belief that EVs will become more appealing to consumers as they recognize the potential savings and reliability advantages over traditional diesel vehicles. The discussion highlights a significant paradigm shift in the automotive industry, emphasizing the importance of these factors in the decision-making process for future vehicle purchases.

Takeaways

People will start thinking about EVs more and more.
Total cost of ownership will favor EVs in the near future.
Reliability of EVs is becoming a key consideration.
2027 emissions requirements will drive change in the market.
A paradigm shift towards EVs is imminent.
Incentives for EVs are just the beginning of the transition.
Next three to five years are crucial for EV adoption.
EVs can offer savings compared to traditional vehicles.
The inflection point for EVs is approaching rapidly.
Consumers will prioritize TCO and reliability in their choices.

Titles

The Future of Electric Vehicles: A Paradigm Shift
Understanding the Total Cost of Ownership in EVs

Sound bites

"It's only getting better for EVs."
"A big paradigm shift is coming."
"Incentives for EVs are just the beginning."

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to A to Z Bus Sales

Host: Jared Schnader
Guest: Ian Cadger, Clean Fuels & Infrastructure Team, CALSTART

In this episode of Transition to Zero, host Jared Schnader sits down with Ian Cadger from CALSTART's Clean Fuels & Infrastructure (CF&I) team to unpack the groundbreaking EnergIIZE Commercial Vehicles Project — a first-of-its-kind funding program accelerating zero-emission vehicle infrastructure in California. While Jared leads CALSTART's Bus Team, Ian's work in clean fuels and infrastructure focuses on building the backbone that enables electric and hydrogen transit fleets to thrive.

Ian explains how EnergIIZE supports fleet and transit agencies with funding for chargers, hydrogen dispensers, and supporting equipment, along with software, maintenance, and warranty costs. The conversation dives deep into how the program operates — from early-stage planning and applications to data reporting and long-term uptime requirements. Jared and Ian also discuss how EnergIIZE coordinates with utilities, CalFleet Advisors, and vehicle voucher programs like HVIP to make infrastructure projects viable and scalable.

The two explore the evolution of the program's incentive structure, which now rewards greater charger capacity and encourages ambitious buildouts. Ian provides insights into how EnergIIZE has become a national model for other states developing similar initiatives — emphasizing lessons learned in streamlining applications, ensuring utility coordination, and promoting equity in infrastructure deployment.

Finally, Ian offers a look at what's next for EnergIIZE, including the launch of a megawatt charging system funding lane targeting drayage fleets, continued data collection efforts, and opportunities for agencies to stay connected through CalSTART's funding updates.

• EnergIIZE funds both EV and hydrogen fueling infrastructure, including equipment, software, maintenance, and warranties.

• Transit agencies can apply through the Transit Set-Aside or Fast Track Lane, depending on project readiness.

• The program requires coordination with local utilities and includes five years of data reporting on charger usage and uptime.

• CalFleet Advisors helps agencies assess needs, site capacity, and charger requirements before applying.

• The EnergIIZE Impact Map tracks awards and deployment progress across California.

• A new incentive structure encourages higher-capacity charging projects rather than fixed grant amounts.

• The program has spurred growing national interest, inspiring similar models outside California.

• Upcoming: a $10 million Megawatt Charging System lane focused on drayage industry electrification.

• 🌐 EnergIIZE Commercial Vehicles Program (note the double "ii")

• 📊 EnergIIZE Impact Map – Funding & Deployment Data

• 🚌 CalSTART – advancing clean transportation technologies

• 🤝 CalFleet Advisors – fleet support for zero-emission transitions

• 📬 Sign up for EnergIIZE Funding Announcements on the EnergIIZE website

Summary

In this episode of Transition to Zero, Jared Schnader and Steve Chung explore the journey of Model One, focusing on the transition to zero-emission vehicles. They discuss the El Arca study, which highlights significant fuel savings and improved customer satisfaction, and delve into the broader impact of electric transportation on communities and the environment.

Keywords

El Arca study, fuel savings, customer satisfaction, zero-emission vehicles, electric transportation, Model One, California regulations, infrastructure, maintenance costs, electric buses

Takeaways

• Model One is the largest bus dealer in the country, focusing on zero-emission vehicles.
• California's clean air regulations influence nationwide standards.
• El Arca saves up to $30,000 monthly on fuel with electric vehicles.
• Electric vehicles offer a quieter, more pleasant ride for passengers.
• Customer satisfaction is enhanced by the quieter, smoother ride of electric vehicles.
• Model One partners with major manufacturers like Ford for reliable zero-emission solutions.
• The transition to zero-emission vehicles involves significant infrastructure considerations.
• Electric vehicles reduce maintenance costs and eliminate the need for oil changes.
• Model One provides comprehensive support from sales to service.
• The market is evolving with advancements in battery technology and electric vehicle infrastructure.

Title Options

• Revolutionizing Transit: The El Arca Study
• Fuel Savings & Satisfaction: The Electric Advantage
• Model One's Journey to Zero Emissions
• Electric Vehicles: A Quieter, Greener Future
• The Impact of Zero-Emission Buses on Communities
• How El Arca Achieved $30K Monthly Fuel Savings
• Customer Satisfaction in the Age of Electric Transit
• Model One's Role in the Zero-Emission Revolution
• The Future of Transportation: Electric Buses
• From Gas to Electric: A New Era in Transit

Sound bites

• El Arca saves $30,000 monthly
• Quieter rides enhance satisfaction
• Electric vehicles cut maintenance costs
• Zero emissions, zero compromises
• A smoother ride for all
• Leading the charge in transit
• Fuel savings drive change
• Customer satisfaction soars
• Electric is the future
• Model One's electric evolution

Title: Transition to Zero: Exploring the Future of Transit with Forest River

Episode Description: Join host Jared Schnader as he delves into the world of advanced transit technologies with Doug Wright, President of Forest River's Bus and Marine Division. Discover insights into the evolving market of cutaway buses, the impact of COVID-19 on the industry, and the future of electric vehicles in transit.

Key Topics:

Introduction to Forest River: Doug Wright provides a comprehensive overview of Forest River's diverse divisions, from RVs to marine and bus manufacturing. Market Dynamics: Explore the shifts in the cutaway bus market pre- and post-COVID, including the rise of vans and the challenges of maintaining market share. Innovation and Responsibility: Learn about Forest River's commitment to building reliable buses for operators and mechanics, emphasizing the importance of stability, support, simplicity, and value. Electric Vehicle Transition: Doug discusses the gradual shift towards electric vehicles, the role of hybrids, and the importance of infrastructure and total cost of ownership. Customization Challenges: The episode addresses the complexities of over-customization in bus manufacturing and the benefits of standardization for efficiency and quality. Future Innovations: Doug shares insights into potential innovations in materials and technology that could enhance the safety and reliability of buses.

Notable Quotes:

"We have a tremendous responsibility to make sure that our buses are not only built really well, but when they do break down, they're back on the road quickly." "The look of the vehicle isn't what should be most important to the end user; it's everything else that continues to get better."

Conclusion: Doug Wright emphasizes the importance of innovation, responsibility, and collaboration in shaping the future of transit. As the largest cutaway bus manufacturer, Forest River is poised to lead the industry with reliable and advanced solutions.

Hashtags: #TransitInnovation #ElectricVehicles #ForestRiver #SustainableTransport

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Title: Transition to Zero: Innovations in Transit with BAE Systems

Description: Join host Jared Schnader as he sits down with John Hroncich, Director of North American Transit Sales at BAE Systems, to explore the cutting-edge advancements in electric and hybrid propulsion systems. Discover how BAE Systems is transforming public transportation with sustainable technologies and hear about their latest achievements, including the Gen 3 electric drive system and its impressive performance in Altoona testing.

Key Highlights:

Introduction to BAE Systems: A global leader in aerospace and defense, BAE Systems is celebrating 30 years of innovation in transit technology, focusing on electric and hybrid propulsion solutions. Evolution of Propulsion Systems: John Hroncich shares insights into the development of BAE's Gen 3 system, emphasizing the importance of continuous improvement and feedback from transit operators. Gen 3 Electric Drive System: The latest system boasts significant improvements in fuel economy and emissions savings, achieving 6.6 miles per gallon, a notable increase over previous models. Altoona Testing Success: The Gen 3 system's performance in Altoona testing highlights its efficiency and reliability, setting new benchmarks for hybrid buses. Future of Transit Technology: Discussion on the integration of battery electric, fuel cells, and hybrid systems, and how BAE's flexible architecture supports diverse transit needs. Collaboration with OEMs: BAE's efforts to simplify integration for vehicle manufacturers, reducing complexity and enhancing serviceability. Looking Ahead: Exciting developments in energy storage for commercial aircraft and the potential for cross-industry innovation.

Hashtags: #TransitInnovation #SustainableTransport #BAESystems #ElectricDrive #ZeroEmissions

Title: Transition to Zero: Exploring Mobility House's Role in Transit Electrification

Description: Join host Jared Schnader and guest Sam Hill-Cristol, Director of Business Development and Strategy at Mobility House, as they delve into the future of transit electrification. Discover how Mobility House is pioneering vehicle grid integration and smart charging solutions to support zero-emission mobility.

Key Topics:

Introduction to Mobility House's mission and vision for zero-emission mobility. Unique approaches to electrification and vehicle grid integration. The role of smart charging technology in reducing operational and capital costs. Strategies for integrating electric buses into existing transit operations. The importance of collaboration between transit agencies and utilities. Future outlook on transit electrification and its impact on climate goals.

Guest: Sam Hill-Cristol, Director of Business Development and Strategy at Mobility House

Host: Jared Schnader, Lead of the Bus Team at CALSTART

Hashtags: #TransitElectrification #ZeroEmission #SmartCharging #MobilityHouse

In this episode of "Transition to Zero," host Jared Schnader sits down with Dr. John Warner, Chief Customer Officer at American Battery Solutions. They explore the evolution of battery technology, the challenges and opportunities in the transit industry, and the future of sustainable transportation. Dr. Warner shares insights from his extensive career in the automotive and battery industries, discussing the importance of innovation and collaboration in driving the industry forward. Tune in to discover how American Battery Solutions is leading the charge in creating a cleaner, more efficient future.

Show Notes:

Title: Transition to Zero: The Future of Battery Technology with Dr. John Warner

Introduction:

Host Jared Schnader introduces the episode and guest, Dr. John Warner. Overview of Dr. Warner's background in the automotive and battery industries.

Key Discussion Points:

Dr. Warner's Career Journey:

Transition from automotive to battery industry. Founding of American Battery Solutions.

Battery Technology Evolution:

Historical perspective on lithium-ion batteries. Current advancements and future potential.

Challenges in the Transit Industry:

Importance of safety, performance, and cost in battery design. The role of electric buses in reducing emissions and operational costs.

Future Innovations:

Exploration of solid-state and lithium-sulfur technologies. The impact of new chemistries on energy density and safety.

Education and Workforce Development:

The need for training the next generation of battery industry professionals.

Conclusion:

Dr. Warner's vision for the future of battery technology. Closing remarks and invitation for audience questions.

Hashtags: #BatteryTechnology #SustainableTransport #Innovation #ElectricVehicles

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