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The Other Pod with Chloe Aftel

The Other Pod with Chloe Aftel

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The Other Pod is the latest venture from acclaimed visual artist Chloe Aftel. With a long career of pushing boundaries and exposing all the messy in-betweens of society, Chloe now takes her lens to a deeper level through The Other Pod.

Join Chloe for monthly inquisitions into the lives of famed creatives, activists, philosophers, writers, scholars, and more.

From rapper/activist Killer Mike to feminist philosopher Serene Khader, Chloe’s uniquely curious and empathetic way of connecting with guests furthers the throughline of all her work: how gender, identity, and sexuality create works of meaning.

With each new episode profiling unique identities and careers, Chloe bravely looks at the way self-expression can lead to freedom, how being an outsider is more universal than may appear, and what tangible strategies we can invoke in pursuit of something greater than the status quo.

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    • Episode 36 — Alain Deneault on Corporate Accountability, Tax Havens, and the Ethics of Resistance
      Feb 1 2026
      Description:

      French Canadian author Alain Deneault sits down with host Chloe Aftel to discuss what it means to hold multinational corporations accountable for the ecological harm and human rights abuses they enact, as well as the importance of organizing in the face of injustice rather than falling into a cycle of despair. They break down the difference between individualistic cultures versus collectivist cultures, and analyze the different philosophies that surround it. Deneault sheds light on Canada’s role in the development of tax havens and the impact that has on working class families citing his years of research. He emphasizes the importance of acting now and creating relationships with both the land and within your communities that aren’t exploitative but rather set a foundation for a more just and ethical world.


      Highlights:
      • Deneault discusses how due to the fact that his work covers topics that can often times feel despairing, he has to take great care in how he presents the information as he aims to encourage people to organize locally, build connections with their communities, and understand the role that failure plays in achieving long term goals
      • He discusses how everything in our society from media and work culture to political and systemic structures are designed to not only exhaust and overwhelm the working class, but to lower their standards and to dissuade their ability to think too critically on the root causes of societal issues
      • Deneault states that he views philosophy as an opportunity to discover concepts that allow you to give meaning and understanding to different situations and contexts, without being dominated by it
      • They discuss the lawsuit that Barrick Gold sent to Deneault after the publication of Noir Canada: Pillage, corruption et criminalité en Afrique, along with his researchers and publisher, with many describing the lawsuit to be a strategic lawsuit against public participation and an attempt to silence those who are willing to speak out against these corporations and hold them accountable for the harm they cause

      Biographies:


      Alain Deneault is a notable French Canadian author who is best known for his book entitled Noir Canada: Pillage, corruption et criminalité en Afrique, a work which analyzed the impact of Canadian mining corporations in Africa and shone a light on the destruction they caused. Deneault was born in Outaouais, Quebec and went on to study at the Centre Marc Bloch in Berlin where he received his research doctorate, following it up with a PhD in Philosophy from Paris 8 University. He has written books on various topics such as corporate tax havens, mining corporations, banking, multinational corporations, and the oil industry. His goal is to present information in a way that is both accessible but not negligent to the complexities of the issues at hand, and to encourage people to organize and build relationships locally in order to have a global impact. Some of his other works include Offshore: Paradis fiscaux et souveraineté criminelle (2010), Gouvernance : Le management totalitaire (2013), and Bande de colons. Une mauvaise conscience de classe (2020).

      Chloe Aftel has spent her career working in commercial photography, photojournalism, and film. She’s an established name in modern photography with work featured in The New York Times, Mother Jones, Playboy, Dazed & Confused, Vogue Germany, The Hollywood Reporter, The Wall Street Journal, Vogue Italia, Vanity Fair, Rolling Stone, Teen Vogue, and more. Aftel has photographed victims of sexual violence, reported on COVID 19's impact on the trans community, and gained access as the first reporter in COVID wards of the West Coast’s hardest-hit hospitals. She has covered underground abortion providers, the impact of gender pronouns on daily life, and clergy abuse. Aftel's first book, Outside & In Between, is an award-winning anthology covering gender non-conforming people across the United States.



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      1 h et 39 min
    • Episode 35 — Acclaimed Cinematographer Benoît Debie on Intuition and Experimentation in Film with Host Chloe Aftel
      Dec 31 2025
      Acclaimed Belgian cinematographer Benoît Debie joins host Chloe Aftel to discuss the way that encouraging experimentation and improvisation in film can push the story even further and make the visuals even more impactful to the audience. Debie discusses how his process came to be, citing his time working on his first feature film, Gaspar Noé’s Irreversible (2002), and how having the limitation of only using natural lighting in that project while also trying to preserve the color in the scenes taught him to embrace spontaneity and intuition as a part of his artistic process. He discusses some of the techniques, tools, and processes he uses to create these visuals, emphasizing the importance of experimentation and how failure can create the most inspiration towards a better final image. Debie also discusses the importance of respecting not just the story and the audience, but also the creatives as well, discussing how his collaboration with his crew is the most significant part of his process and how leading with respect creates an environment that actualizes potential through failure, embracing unknowns and always learning.


      Highlights:
      • Debie talks about intentional accidents and how working with Gaspar Noé has helped him embrace being willing to tackle a project with flexibility and intuition in mind
      • He brings up the flexibility that working in both feature film and commercial work allows him, saying that by working in both it gives him the freedom to be more selective about the projects he decides to pursue
      • Debie talks about his approaches to portraying female characters, especially when the scene involves sensitive topics, stating that it’s important to respect both the story and the character, and how the use of exploitation in those visuals would only take away from the impact of the story
      • He discusses various different techniques he uses to create different effects, including using older lenses when shooting digitally to help give the visuals a more natural and analog look

      Biographies:

      Benoît Debie is an acclaimed Belgian cinematographer, best known for his innovative and experimental approaches when it comes to lighting and color grading. He grew up in Belgium and began his career working as a camera assistant after graduating from the Institut des Arts de Diffusion. Throughout his early career he worked both in television and on various short films and commercials, but he would eventually get contacted by frequent collaborator, Argentinian director Gaspar Noé, to work as a director of photography on Noé’s 2002 feature film Irréversible, a project he said working on helped create the foundation for his visual style. Since then he has worked on various feature projects, including Innocence (2004), Enter the Void (2009), Spring Breakers (2012), and The Sisters Brothers (2018), the latter in which his work on ended up earning him a César Award for Best Cinematography the same year.

      Chloe Aftel has spent her career working in commercial photography, photojournalism, and film. She’s an established name in modern photography with work featured in The New York Times, Mother Jones, Playboy, Dazed & Confused, Vogue Germany, The Hollywood Reporter, The Wall Street Journal, Vogue Italia, Vanity Fair, Rolling Stone, Teen Vogue, and more. Aftel has photographed victims of sexual violence, reported on COVID 19's impact on the trans community, and gained access as the first reporter in COVID wards of the West Coast’s hardest-hit hospitals. She has covered underground abortion providers, the impact of gender pronouns on daily life, and clergy abuse. Aftel's first book, Outside & In Between, is an award-winning anthology covering gender non-conforming people across the United States.

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      1 h et 4 min
    • Catholic Priest and Activist Michael Pfleger Takes on the Lightning Round!
      Dec 15 2025
      Welcome to our 'Lightning Round' with Other podcast guest and Catholic Priest Michael Pfleger! The idea is to ask questions that he — and hopefully you — don't expect, and that the answers will be as equally interesting and hopefully amusing. Please enjoy.


      Biographies:

      Michael Pfleger is an American Catholic priest and social activist who has gained notoriety in recent years for being outspoken about the countless systemic issues and injustices that exist within the Catholic Church and how they impact the world around us. Pfleger was ordained as a priest in May of 1977 by the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Chicago, after studying at Archbishop Quigley Preparatory Seminary South, Loyola University, and the University of Saint Mary of the Lake. He would then go on to lead the Parish of Saint Sabina, a predominantly black church located in the heart of Chicago where he has been since 1981. In his work he emphasizes leading with love rather than judgement and has dedicated his time to running food drives, encouraging sex worker outreach, and helping lead local anti drug campaigns. Under his leadership, Saint Sabina has also been able to develop various programs to provide resources for their community, including an elder’s home, a social center, and an employment resource center.

      Chloe Aftel has spent her career working in commercial photography, photojournalism, and film. She’s an established name in modern photography with work featured in The New York Times, Mother Jones, Playboy, Dazed & Confused, Vogue Germany, The Hollywood Reporter, The Wall Street Journal, Vogue Italia, Vanity Fair, Rolling Stone, Teen Vogue, and more. Aftel has photographed victims of sexual violence, reported on COVID 19's impact on the trans community, and gained access as the first reporter in COVID wards of the West Coast’s hardest-hit hospitals. She has covered underground abortion providers, the impact of gender pronouns on daily life, and clergy abuse. Aftel's first book, Outside & In Between, is an award-winning anthology covering gender non-conforming people across the United States.

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      4 min
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