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Still Figuring It Out

Still Figuring It Out

De : Emily and Marc Pitman
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Welcome to the our podcast! We, Marc and Emily Pitman are excited to invite you to join us as we explore leadership, life-together, and still figuring it out even after 30 years!2025 Direction Economie Management et direction Relations Sciences sociales
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  • SFIO 404 - Cocktails, Community, and the Work of Hope with Lisa Belczyk
    Apr 22 2026
    📋 𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲 In this episode of Still Figuring It Out, Emily and Marc welcome Lisa Belczyk for a wide-ranging conversation about art, hospitality, cocktails, community, and how to stay human in a turbulent world. Lisa shares her wonderfully layered identity — Pittsburgh native, former classical musician, drinks educator, cocktail designer, and lover of food, books, travel, and design — and reflects on how beauty and culture have shaped her life from an early age. The conversation moves from Frank Lloyd Wright and Fallingwater to the Wine & Spirit Education Trust, cocktail menus, and the craft of helping people grow their palates. But the heart of the episode lands in a deeper place: how to keep showing up with hope, joy, and care when the world feels unstable and overwhelming. Lisa offers a compelling vision of taverns, bars, and cultural spaces as places where people gather, reconnect, replenish, and imagine what comes next. It's a thoughtful, emotionally grounded episode about civil society, creativity, resistance, and the small but meaningful ways we can contribute to a better world. 🔑 𝐊𝐞𝐲 𝐓𝐚𝐤𝐞𝐰𝐚𝐲𝐬 Art and beauty can shape a life early, and those influences often keep echoing into our work and identity.Hospitality matters, especially in hard times. A welcoming space can offer real nourishment for people who are tired, grieving, or trying to keep going.Civil society is built in shared spaces — taverns, theaters, clubs, guilds, and gathering places where people remember how to be human together.Trust is central to growth, whether you are helping someone expand their palate, supporting a professional community, or walking with others through difficult times.Creativity and art are not luxuries. They can be part of how people endure, resist, connect, and imagine something better.Even in seasons of global uncertainty, people still need joy, flavor, conversation, and community.Hope may feel harder to hold right now, but small acts of beauty, gathering, and care still matter. 🗣 𝐐𝐮𝐨𝐭𝐞 𝐇𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐥𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐬 "I want to learn everything about everything, and so I follow a lot of tangents." – Lisa "We still know how to blow bubbles, guys. Bubbles can exist in this world." – Emily "You can live in art, and it can be just so integrated into who we are as humans." – Lisa "It means harmony. It means working in that resonant space of when your values and your life and your work and your team are like guitar strings humming off each other." – Emily "We need these spaces that are outside of our homes and outside of our ideological castles." – Marc "How do we support our neighbors? How do we support our global neighbors in times of atrocity?" – Lisa "We were asked when we thought humanities best time was. I still really, really believe it hasn't happened yet." – Emily "Don't keep digging up the seed. You planted the seed — don't keep digging it up to see if there are roots." – Marc "Revolutions were built in taverns and pubs and communal third spaces." – Lisa "If I can provide a hospitable space that also happens to have a kick-ass cocktail, I feel like that can replenish the soul for the fight." – Lisa 🧰 𝐓𝐨𝐨𝐥𝐬 & 𝐌𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬 • U.S. Bartenders Guild (USBG) • Jess Pettitt • Wine & Spirit Education Trust (WSET) • Frank Lloyd Wright • Carnegie Museum of Art • Fred Rogers • Julia Child • The Hold Steady • Join or Die (documentary) • Dietrich Bonhoeffer 👥 𝐖𝐡𝐨 𝐒𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐥𝐝 𝐋𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐞𝐧 • People trying to stay hopeful and grounded in a turbulent political and cultural moment • Bartenders, hospitality professionals, and anyone who cares about the deeper role of gathering spaces • Artists, musicians, and creatives thinking about what art is for in difficult times • Leaders and community-builders who want to create spaces of connection, trust, and renewal • Listeners who enjoy thoughtful conversations about culture, beauty, resistance, and joy • Anyone interested in the intersection of food, drink, design, and meaningful human connection 🎺 𝐓𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐌𝐮𝐬𝐢𝐜! Special thanks to Lexi Moreno, Caleb Pitman, and Zoe Czarnecki for the original music. Lexi Moreno – composing / mixing / mastering / guitar Caleb Pitman – composing / mixing / trumpet Zoe Czarnecki – bass
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    25 min
  • SFIO 403 - Where Your Foot Lands: The Hidden Center of Change
    Apr 15 2026

    📋 Episode Summary
    This episode begins, as many do, in the wonderfully ordinary—missing pillows, pollen season in Greenville, and the small negotiations of shared space. But quickly, the conversation pivots (intentionally and unexpectedly) into a deeper exploration of transitions—what they are, how we navigate them, and what truly anchors us when everything feels like it's shifting.

    Marc reflects on the modern pressure for certainty in leadership and life, while Emily reframes the idea of "pivot" from a tired buzzword into something embodied, grounded, and even elegant. Drawing from dance, grammar, coaching, and spirituality, they explore what it means to have a true pivot point—not just a change in direction, but a grounded place from which meaningful movement happens.

    The conversation unfolds into a rich, layered reflection on agency, identity, and perspective: Are we the ones acting, or the ones being acted upon? And how might shifting that lens change how we move through seasons of transition?

    🔑 Key Takeaways
    • A true pivot isn't just a change in direction—it requires a stable, grounded point to turn from.
    • Modern leadership often craves certainty, but today's reality demands adaptability rooted in values.
    • We tend to oversimplify problems by searching for a single cause instead of recognizing broader systems.
    • Transitions invite curiosity and expectancy—not just problem-solving or loss-focused thinking.
    • Language shapes perspective: shifting subject and object can radically change how we understand our role in change.
    • Agency in transitions is more complex than control—it may involve both acting and responding.

    🗣 Quote Highlights
    "Pivot is the act of pivoting… but it's also the place where your foot lands before you turn." – Emily

    "I think it's more realistic to ask, what are the guiding principles…rather than what's the five-year plan?" – Marc

    "I remember the strength and the sassiness I felt when I learned to pivot turn." – Emily

    "I have an amazing ability to find one thing to blame in what's actually a systemic issue." – Marc

    "We often focus on what we're losing in transitions instead of being curious about what's coming." – Marc

    "The pivot point is you—and the action you take toward those things." – Emily

    "We don't impact everything… sometimes we're the ones being impacted." – Emily

    🧰 Tools & Mentions
    • Merriam-Webster (definitions of "pivot")
    • WordHippo (word exploration tool)
    • Pivot tables (Excel reference)
    • Dr. Nadia Nuxemblyva / Reinvention Lab
    • Anne Handley ("Justice for M-Dashes")
    • Robert Webber (writings on worship)
    • Richard Rohr (the "divine dance")

    👥 Who Should Listen
    • Leaders navigating uncertainty and tired of rigid long-term planning models
    • People in a season of transition who feel pressure to "figure it out" quickly
    • Coaches, facilitators, and consultants exploring deeper frameworks for change
    • Couples or partners working and growing together through life transitions
    • Anyone wrestling with control, agency, and meaning in times of change

    🎺 That Music!
    Special thanks to Lexi Moreno, Caleb Pitman, and Zoe Czarnecki for the original music.
    Lexi Moreno – composing / mixing / mastering / guitar
    Caleb Pitman – composing / mixing / trumpet
    Zoe Czarnecki – bass

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    19 min
  • SFIO 402 - The Unseen Shift
    Apr 8 2026

    📋 Episode Summary
    In this episode, Emily and Marc take up the word shift and explore it from several angles: literal, emotional, vocational, and spiritual. What begins with fish tanks, threshold art, and a joke about spelling quickly turns into a story about an unexpectedly manual rental car in Germany, a long-delayed train trip, and Marc's sudden return to driving stick shift after decades away from it.

    From there, the conversation deepens. A stick shift becomes a metaphor for all kinds of life changes: the shifts between work and home, pride and self-consciousness, intention and muscle memory, control and listening. Emily names the in-between moment of pressing the clutch — disengaging before re-engaging — as its own kind of threshold. Marc reflects on the difference between switching off and actually shifting, and both of them notice how much of life is less about forcing control than learning to listen and adjust.

    It is a thoughtful, funny, grounded episode about noticing what is changing beneath the surface — and what it might mean to meet those changes with curiosity instead of strain.

    🔑 Key Takeaways

    • Shifts are often smaller and subtler than big transitions, but they still shape how we move through life.
    • A literal stick shift became a vivid metaphor for unexpected adaptation, muscle memory, stress, and learning in real time.
    • The space between gears matters: shifting involves a moment of disengagement before re-engagement, not just a hard stop and restart.
    • Marc reflects on how difficult it can be to shift from work to home when the work is meaningful and deeply integrated into life.
    • Emily notices shifts most clearly in energy — body, mind, and spirit — and questions whether those shifts are meant to be controlled or listened to.
    • Pride is not always vanity; sometimes it is about ease, confidence, reliability, and not having to carry extra self-consciousness.
    • Curiosity can be a healthier response to change than forcing, managing, or trying to dominate every variable.

    🗣 Quote Highlights

    "A shift, to me, says adjust." – Emily

    "That's when I realized the unseen shift. The stick shift." – Marc

    "There's a point of disengage and re-engage where we're back to that threshold." – Emily

    "I think I do live in liminal spaces, and relish that." – Marc

    "I think it may be a listen to and adjust." – Emily

    🧰 Tools & Mentions

    • WordHippo.com
    • Shift work in factories and hospitals
    • Driving stick shift / standard transmission
    • German train delays
    • Leiden, Netherlands
    • Bremen, Germany
    • Enterprise Rent-A-Car
    • ChatGPT as a travel helper during the rental-car scramble
    • The Autobahn
    • Sabbath as a weekly forced switch away from income-producing work
    • Thresholds and liminal space
    • Aquarium life: neon tetras and snails
    • The "Brew House" threshold picture above the garage

    👥 Who Should Listen

    • People navigating subtle but meaningful life changes
    • Anyone adjusting to unexpected travel, work, or family stress
    • Work-from-home people who struggle to shift out of work mode
    • Listeners interested in liminal space, thresholds, and everyday metaphors
    • People exploring how energy changes through the day and how to respond with more awareness
    • Anyone who appreciates reflective conversations that begin in ordinary life and end somewhere deeper

    🎺 That Music!
    Special thanks to Lexi Moreno, Caleb Pitman, and Zoe Czarnecki for the original music.
    Lexi Moreno – composing / mixing / mastering / guitar
    Caleb Pitman – composing / mixing / trumpet
    Zoe Czarnecki – bass

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    24 min
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