This episode we chat to Andy Parsons, who apart from being a top bloke also happens to be married to British #NationalTreasure Becky Adlington.

In the episode Matt, Liam and Andy discuss all things baby loss including how the couple grieved after suffering multiple miscarriages; Andy's own journey with grief and being a spokesperson as a bereaved father; and how sport gave him a moment to himself.

We touch on the role of counselling and how it provides a space to be open about your own challenges and also as a couple. We go deep on the complexities of miscarriage and the connotations that come with it - while trying to unsuccessful come up with an alternative word.

Andy opens up about how his thoughts and feelings were changed following counselling and his new perspective towards their first loss - something we've touched on in previous episodes.

Finally, we discuss the songs that bring us closest to our babies and Andy confesses all about how much James Blunt means to him and our campaign to unite them begins. Stay to the end for that one.

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'Dad Still Standing' is a podcast about baby loss and grief and is a Factory Originals production.