Michael & Jordan talk about the leadership God ordains being put through trials that refine, the beauty of the Father's Heart and misplaced purpose outside of it, as well as a lot of the strange enigmas of God and how His invisible Hand works on people's hearts.

Michael & Jordan have on special musical guest Jhonny Tiger. They worship together, discuss life and God, as well as talk about how to make yourself available for God to use as an encounter for others (interview starts at 36min 14 sec). Other guests include a special visit from "Professional Christian" where everyone weighs in on the enormity of the hit Christian TV series "The Chosen," why anything outside of the 4 walls of the church is literal chaos, and debate whether or not street evangelism is even a thing.

Michael & Jordan discuss recycled, rehashed ideas and the doldrums of creativity in the entertainment industries, Renaissance/Reformation and the collateral damage of birthing something new, and other delights that will tickle your fancy.