John welcomes five-time Emmy-winning writer Ali Barthwell (Last Week Tonight) to ask, can writers learn to be funny? Drawing from her time as a teacher at The Second City, they look at what writers can learn from sketch and improv, and how to reliably find ways to make an audience laugh.

We also celebrate the WGA membership's ratification of the 2026 MBA, the educational future of the Scriptnotes book, and answer listener questions on the first scene of a comedy and when to stop taking assistant gigs and bet on yourself.

In our bonus segment for premium members, Ali shares how she built a thriving writing career without ever having to live in New York or LA.

Links:

• Ali Barthwell
• Preorder Ali's new book, Reality TV for Snobs
• The Second City
• Pre-inked star stamps
• The Padilla Pause: How the Breakout Star of SNL Nails Comic Timing by Jason Zinoman for NYTimes
• Funnier by Anne Libera
• Get your copy of the Scriptnotes book!
• Get a Scriptnotes T-shirt!
• Check out the Inneresting Newsletter
• Become a Scriptnotes Premium member, or gift a subscription
• Subscribe to Scriptnotes on YouTube
• Follow Scriptnotes on Instagram and TikTok
• John August on Bluesky and Instagram
• Outro by Matt Gillespie (send us yours!)
• Scriptnotes is produced by Drew Marquardt and edited by Matthew Chilelli.

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John welcomes writer/showrunner Haley Z. Boston for a post-mortem on her terrifying new series, Something Very Bad is Going to Happen. They look at how the series evolved from initial idea through production, her experience as a first-time showrunner, the special relationship between women and horror, and how she constructs terror on the page.

We also chart her early career, and answer listener questions on splitting scenes and how to handle an overwhelming amount of development notes.

In our bonus segment for premium members, it's spoiler territory as we look at what we can learn from the clever red herrings and misdirects of the series.

Links:

• Haley Z. Boston on Instagram
• Something Very Bad is Going to Happen on Netflix
• Read along with an excerpt from the pilot
• Saying 'I do' is supposed to be joyous — unless something very bad happens by Gina McIntyre for LA Times
• Men, Women, and Chain Saws: Gender in the Modern Horror Film by Carol J. Clover
• Tasting Day
• Freaks Only
• Atomic Wave Dance by The Comet is Coming
• Get your copy of the Scriptnotes book!
• Get a Scriptnotes T-shirt!
• Check out the Inneresting Newsletter
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• John August on Bluesky and Instagram
• Outro by Gloom Canyon (send us yours!)
• Scriptnotes is produced by Drew Marquardt and edited by Matthew Chilelli.

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John and Craig flip the idea of motivation on its head and ask, what are your characters running from? Using examples across film and TV, they look at the psychological underpinnings of discomfort, and how to use avoidance as a driving force of character and story.

We've also been away for a minute, so there's a lot to catch up on! We follow-up on where the heck we've been, locked pages, a Scottish rap duo, and a new scientific answer for whether one page of script really equals one minute of movie. We also answer listener questions on the afterlife of residuals and writing with a significant other.

In our bonus segment for premium members, we go through their feedback on our first ever video podcast and announce our plans for the future of the show.

Links:

• Does one page of a screenplay really equal one minute of screen time? by Stephen Follows
• California Schemin' trailer
• Indistractable by Nir Eyal
• Explanation of Disbursement of Residual Payments After Death from the WGA West
• Parseword
• Frankenstein's Regrets by Ben Tarnoff for The Nation
• The AI Paradox: How to Make Sense of a Complex Future by Virginia Dignum
• Indigo Girls Tour featuring Jessie Mazin!
• Get your copy of the Scriptnotes book!
• Get a Scriptnotes T-shirt!
• Check out the Inneresting Newsletter
• Become a Scriptnotes Premium member, or gift a subscription
• Subscribe to Scriptnotes on YouTube
• Scriptnotes on Instagram and TikTok
• John August on Bluesky and Instagram
• Outro by James Ashley McLaren (send us yours!)
• Scriptnotes is produced by Drew Marquardt and edited by Matthew Chilelli.

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