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Scrambled Eggs & Ham Podcast

Host: Bill Clark

Date: June 12th

Episode Topic: Ride for Equity – From Black Wall Street to Wall Street

Bill Clark:

Good morning. My name is Bill, and I am the host of the Scrambled Eggs & Ham podcast. Today is June 12th, and it’s hot outside here on the East Coast.

I just wanted to let the listeners know about one of our previous interviewees, Osborne Celestain. (Cancer survivor) is currently riding from Black Wall Street in Tulsa, Oklahoma, all the way to Wall Street in New York City. That’s right — from Tulsa to New York. And get this — Osborne is the only Tulsan among the seven participants making this incredible journey.

When we spoke earlier this year on the podcast — actually, I had the good fortune of being out in Tulsa at the time — we had an interview over coffee at a local café. Osborne told me about this plan. I remember thinking, Wow… that’s ambitious!

And it is.

• 35 days on the road
• 1,645 miles total
• 50 miles per day
• 15 miles per hour pace
• And just one rest day per week

That’s a serious commitment.

The event is called the Ride for Equity — a tribute to the legacy of Black Wall Street and a powerful call to action for economic justice.

There’s a lot going on right now across the U.S. — from protests in California, New York, Philly, to Michigan. It’s a time of urgency and purpose. For Osborne to ride this route — from Tulsa to NYC — it’s what I’d call putting your money where your mouth is. He’s on the money.

Now, I haven’t ridden with him — yet. He’s been trying to get me to dust off my bike from the garage and start riding again. I probably don’t even know a pedal from a spoke anymore, but Osborne’s encouragement is real. My prayers go out to him and all the riders making this journey to Wall Street.

They’re expected to arrive in New York around July 2nd to 4th. Osborne actually reached out to me this morning. We were texting back and forth — I’m trying to keep track of where they are, what cities and states they’re passing through.

So here’s my message to you today:

Do something incredible. Challenge your own weaknesses — not anyone else’s.

This is Bill Clark from the Scrambled Eggs & Ham podcast.

Have a wonderful — and yes, very hot — week here in New York.

Stay victorious. We’ll talk again soon.

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ScrambledEggs&Ham Podcast
Host: Bill Clark
Guest: Threbs Thompson
Topic: Art, Vision Loss & Finding Humor in the Dark

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Host:
Welcome back to ScrambledEggs&Ham. Today I’m joined by the inspiring Therese Thompson. Therese, thank you for being here.

Trebs:
Thank you for having me! My name is Therese Thompson, and I have peripheral macular telangiectasia—along with a couple of other eye conditions that are eroding my vision pretty quickly. I entered what they call the terminal stages of this disease about a year and a half ago, so the sight loss is a lot faster now.

But—I’m still loving life. I get to do really cool things. I was an arts fellow for the state of Delaware last year, and I’ve got a show coming up this year—provided we all survive the apocalypse here. (laughs) I’m about ready to gouge out what little good sight I do have left.

Host:
The last time I saw you, I was checking out your Facebook profile, and I noticed you’re walking with a cane now, wearing those very dark Hollywood sunglasses. So yeah—it looks like your vision has really progressed. How is that affecting your ability to create?

Trebs:
Vision loss like this is catastrophic. As part of being an arts fellow, I got a small grant, and I used part of it to go to Salem Community College in New Jersey last year. I took two different classes there and learned some techniques that I think will be safer for me as I continue working in glass.

Host:
Now, this is just something I’ve been curious about myself—especially with my own stroke history. Do you think working with glass could have affected your eyesight?

Trebs:
Not. I took up glass later in life. Looking back, I was already experiencing the early symptoms of vision loss before I even began working with glass. And the industry has worked hard to offer non-toxic alternatives. For example, instead of using traditional lead soldering, there are now non-lead options. So no, I don’t think it’s the cause—just unlucky genetics.

Host:
Wow. So, let’s talk about MACTEL. I’ve mentioned it on the show before, but for folks who may not know—can you explain how it affects your vision?

Trebs:
Sure. When it started, I just couldn’t read for pleasure anymore. Words stopped making sense. Then I noticed that straight lines were no longer straight—everything looked broken and wavy.

MACTEL, in simple terms, is the thinning of vessel walls in the blood vessels that feed the retina. Those walls weaken, kind of like mini-aneurysms, and leak blood into the eye. That leads to macular degeneration, which is more or less a byproduct of this disease.

Host:
Is there a cure for MACTEL?

Trebs:
There’s no cure. It’s rare—still under 5,000 diagnosed cases globally. But we are fortunate to have a generous funder supporting research.

Host:
I wanted to ask you—are you learning to read Braille?

Trebs:
I’ve considered it, but honestly, for people our age, the success rate in becoming fluent in Braille is pretty low. Plus, technology has made it less necessary. I use screen readers and AI apps that describe pictures, read menus, and even tell me what kind of bills I get back in change—all just with my phone or tablet. And I’m not even tech-savvy!

Host:
Wow, that’s incredible. Let’s shift gears—tell us something fun about you! I know you’re involved with comedy and improv.

Trebs:
Yes! I’m still doing improv. I even made it onto The Moth Radio Hour the summer before last. I had to put a l

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