Moxie Marlinspike founded Signal, the nonprofit privacy messenger used by millions. He’s now building Confer, a fully private, end-to-end encrypted AI chat. This conversation covers everything.TIMESTAMPS:00:00 Intro 01:09 Building Physical World Projects Centered on Experiences07:43 Tales from Hitchhiking15:04 The Birth of Signal22:23 Privacy in the Digital Age31:21 Introducing Confer: Private AI Chat37:17 Generative AI and Developer Responsibility38:21 Encryption and Cryptography: A Historical Perspective39:15 Skepticism Towards Crypto41:24 The Impact of Self-Publishing and Cancel Culture44:01 Imagining MoxieLand49:41 Why Do Conspiracy Theories Exist58:00 Signal Gate1:02:30 Limits of Solo Ambitions1:05:09 Solving Aging1:09:00 Moxie’s Next Physical World Project FOLLOW:Follow MoxieSign up for ConferFollow SabrinaPlease support this show by subscribing!

Ken Liu: Renowned sci-fi author of The Paper Menagerie, The Hidden Girl and Other Stories, and his new book All That We See or Seem; producer of Pantheon; futurist who works with world governments to prepare for what’s ahead.

TIMESTAMPS:

(0:00) Introduction

(1:41) Mechanism vs meaning: what science explains vs what stories explain

(5:47) What is consciousness, really?

(6:42) Psychedelics and the mystery of the mind

(7:55) Can intelligence exist without consciousness?

(12:10) How mind-uploading might actually work (and the Singularity)

(19:15 — Falling in love with AI - why “imaginary companions” aren’t new

(23:40) Modern day myths around romantic love

(27:15) Preservation vs. transformation of humanity

(32:37) When technical skill disappears: what is craft?

(40:00) When using AI actually makes us feel more human

(41:05) Writing, imagination, and “All That We See or Seem”

(47:35) Dreams, reality, and how we know what’s real

(54:45) Privacy in an age of digital selves

(58:03) Data, the commons, and how knowledge should be shared

Follow Ken: https://x.com/kyliu99

Buy his new book All That We See or Seem : https://www.amazon.com/All-That-Seem-Julia-Novel/dp/1668083175

• When will AI become conscious and how would we even know if it did? We talk about the decoupling of intelligence and consciousness in today's LLMs, and the ethical questions in regulating models.

• Ken walks me through a thought experiment to understand the singularity: what uploading our minds might actually look like, a theme explored in his Netflix series Pantheon. If we replace our minds piece by piece with silicon, at what point do “we” disappear?
• In the age of AI, when many technical skills are made obsolete, who are the experts of craft?
• We explore why falling in love with AI may be grounded in our religious history, and is an act of falling in love with our own reflection.
• We discuss how phones have killed daydreaming and access to the collective unconscious, and the mysteries of psychedelics, natural intelligence, and the universe at large.
• “We are willing to die for the sake of a story. In fact, it’s the only thing humans have ever willingly died for.” Most of human life, Ken argues, has two levels of explanation: 1.Evolution & 2.Stories — the way we make sense of the world and find meaning in it.

Isabelle Boemeke went from Brazilian model to the internet’s most creative nuclear advocate who led the largest pro nuclear rally in US history. In this episode, we talk about nuclear energy's wild history, political drama, and what America’s energy grid needs to look like to keep up with the future demands.

Shownotes:

0:00 : Introduction

1:37 : Growing up in rural Brazil

3:44 : Getting to the United States

5:15 : Reading Richard Dawkins, getting involved in the climate movement, learning about nuclear

12:05 : A historical deep dive: What went wrong with nuclear energy?

24:32 : What really happened at Three Mile Island and Chernobyl - separating fear from facts.

30:43 : Deaths from Nuclear Vs. Fossil Fuels

37:15 : Nuclear Proliferation Risk

42:17 : Gaps in the US supply chain & AI’s need for more energy

49:40 : Promise vs. reality of SMRs (Small modular reactors)

54:54 : Designing energy grid for the US

59:10 : Why are Germany, Taiwan, and Australia shutting down nuclear energy programs?

1:02:10 : Saving California’s last nuclear plant Diablo Canyon

1:08:24 : Today’s nuclear renaissance

Isa Fulford is only a few years out of school and is already the mind behind Deep Research and ChatGPT Agent - two of the most important and ambitious projects at OpenAI. She’s a close friend from our Stanford days, someone I adore, and someone the world is going to hear a lot more about in coming years.

We talk about how her upbringing and violin training shaped the discipline behind her professional work. Isa breaks down how these systems were built, how they think, and where AI is heading, from agents talking to agents to a future where humans guide the work instead of doing it.SHOWNOTES:

0:00 Introduction

1:50 Early life, math, music, and discipline

4:40 Stanford, Journey into AI, & joining OpenAI

7:15 Deep Research, building datasets, & early indications

11:35 Building ChatGPT Agent

13:47 What comes next from OpenAI?

15:58 Personal Use of AI

16:40 Future of Internet + Agent Communication

19:03 Personal AI agents

20:06 Safety Risks 22:44 AGI

24:03 Agents for personal growth

25:00 How AI is changing the way we work

27:43 Talent war and poaching

28:30 Lessons from Sam Altman: raise ambition level

30:18 Rapid questions

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Richard Ngo is a leading AI philosopher and researcher, formerly at OpenAI and DeepMind. We discuss what life looks like once we have AGI and how every aspect of the human experience could change.

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 – Introduction

01:44 – Technology as an Inequality Engine

03:52 – AI as a Personal Tutor vs. Distraction Machine

06:11 – Therapy, Coaching, and Emotional Mediation

09:16 – The Future of Work and the Socio-Political Economy

13:15 – Relationships, Intimacy, and AI Companions

19:03 – Marriage Decline and the Birth Rate Crisis

22:15 – Speed of Change and Political Control

23:55 – Human Augmentation and Speciation

30:52 – Comparing Artificial Intelligence to Natural Intelligence

35:57 – Religion, Continuity, and Identity in the Future

37:26 – China vs. the U.S. in AI Governance

39:39 – Why Richard Left OpenAI

43:43 – Drones, Simulation, Power, and More

In this episode, Sabrina Halper sits down with DAOuda Leonard, Grimes' manager and founder of music tech studio CreateSafe, which just launched its generative AI-powered platform Triniti. Triniti enables artists to create an AI voice clone, generate text-to-audio samples, ask a chatbot music industry-related questions, monetize creations and manage music IP.

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In this episode, Sabrina Halper sits down with Eric Jang. Eric is the VP of AI at 1X Technologies, a humanoid robot company built to benefit society, with investment led by OpenAI. He also published AI is Good for You, a book about the last 10 Years and the next 10 Years of Artificial Intelligence (link to buy attached below). Previously, Eric was a senior research scientist at Google on their robotics team.

Timestamps:

(0:00) - Highlights

(2:53) - Intro

(3:32) - The outdated political system & AI's applications for campaigns7:55 - Debating ideas with AI "champions"

(9:20) - How Meta's VR Quest headset could be a humanoid robot, data engines for AI

(13:20) - Building genuine AI companionship

(18:26) - AI chatbots as sparring partners and improving peoples' social capabilities

(20:45) - Can we achieve AGI through online, text-only data? Or do we need a data engine such as VR, robots, or cars?

(24:20) - How to acquire and label "truth" for LLMs?30:00 - How far are we from AGI? How do you define AGI?

(32:20) - Should we be modeling AI systems after biology and replicating nature-inspired architectures?36:00 - Confronting workforce disruption of humanoid robots, 1X's approach39:00 - Lump of labor fallacy, 10X-ing workforces

(40:10) - Security risks of humanoid robots, high leverage technology = risk

(42:35) - Engineering hardware to mimic the human body, lack of robotics parts

(46:04) - Why is now the right time to invest and build in general purpose robots?

(48:25) - Visualizing a post-AGI future of abundance & utopia situation

(52:27) - What will our relationship to robots look like and which hierarchies will exist? How to engineer an equality dynamic (55:50) - The academia vs start-up landscape in AI and why some researches are going back to academia

(59:54) - Criticisms of the effective altruist and AI safety communities

(1:04:20) - Good policies and models for regulation, issues with regulation today

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