In this episode, Jen talks with Jill Schiller, Treasurer of Hamilton County, Ohio, about finding her way into public service. From early work in the White House to a congressional loss before going on to win elected office twice, Jill's path hasn't been about grand reinventions. It's been about noticing when something no longer fit and adjusting course without framing those moments as failure.

This conversation explores what it means to outgrow a choice, trust your gut when something stops working, and recognize how small, intentional redirections can add up to meaningful change.

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Summer Dancing

In this inaugural episode, host Jen Morales traces her own detours — from music to law to entrepreneurship — and what they taught her about recognizing when a wrong turn is pointing the way toward something truer.

Right Wrong Turns: Finding Direction in Life’s Detours is a podcast about how unplanned twists and setbacks can point us toward truer direction when we're willing to learn from them. Through candid conversations and personal stories, host Jen Morales explores how missteps in work, relationships, and life can become guideposts back to purpose and alignment.

A musician turned lawyer turned entrepreneur, Jen draws on her own winding path and the experiences of her guests to uncover the wisdom hidden in seemingly wrong turns. Each episode makes insights seldom shared openly accessible to all of us, so we can navigate our own detours with greater self-awareness and move closer to lives that feel authentically ours.

Inspired by Maya Angelou’s words—“Do the best you can until you know better. Then, when you know better, do better"—Right Wrong Turns reminds us that life’s side roads can lead us toward clarity. And by sharing what we learn along the way, we help light the path for others.