We had a beautiful conversation with author Gayle Boss about her book All Creation Waits. This book invites you to slow down and pay attention, both to the world outside your window and to the quiet season of Advent itself. It gives you pause, and it teaches you to take pauses, as you begin to observe creation with new eyes and deeper understanding.

I was humbled by the ways these 24 animals endure the winter. I learned so much of what I didn't even realize I had never known, from the painted turtle to the honey bee. The natural world has so much to teach us, and so much capacity to heal us if we're willing to listen.

More importantly, this book will help you see the natural world as a child again. It will help you see the animals that were there for the birth of the Savior, Jesus Christ, not merely as backdrops, but living and active beings celebrating the Light of the World.

You may not be interested in the horror genre, but you still might enjoy Stephen King's The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon. In this episode, we speak with Dr. Carl Sederholm—the best apologist I've heard for why horror can be such an insightful and meaningful genre. For one, it trusts young protagonists with frightening "adult" problems. It also explores the fears we keep tucked in our subconscious, giving us a safe space to confront them. And sometimes, it even provides a strange kind of anxiety relief by letting us see that someone else's day is going much worse than our own.

In this book, nine-year-old Tricia becomes lost in the woods of Maine, tormented by mosquitoes, spooked by mangled deer heads, and ultimately confronted by the bear of her nightmares, the "God of the Lost." Facing what seem like impossible hurdles, Tricia survives in part because of her unwavering admiration for her baseball hero, Tom Gordon. His God becomes the one she believes can carry her through.

And even if the book isn't always enjoyable, the ending is the icing on an otherwise unsavory cake. But you have to make the survival trek to appreciate it. In my opinion, it's totally worth it.

Today we're diving into Wallace Stegner's Crossing to Safety, a novel that captures the rare, sustaining friendships between two couples, Sid and Charity Lang, and Larry and Sally Morgan. Though set in Wisconsin during the depression era, the story feels surprisingly relevant. Stegner shows how the right people at the right moments can steady us, shelter us, and make us grateful for the friendships that have become our own crossings to safety. It's beautifully written and tastes like comfort food in literary format.

We're joined by fellow book-clubber Amanda Frost, who recommended this novel and will help us explore why it remains essential reading, especially as we drift deeper into a world where genuine connection can feel increasingly scarce amid all the noise of AI and social media.