Neil Treacy is joined by Bernard Jackman, Jake White and Ian Keatley on this week's pod as we recap Leinster's URC title win, Leo Cullen's departure in 2027, and the upcoming Nations Championship.

Jake joins Neil and Bernard to discuss where things went so right for Leinster and so wrong for the Bulls in Friday night's URC final at Croke Park, as the province produced a dominant 36-7 win against their South African opponents.

We also discuss Cullen's announcement this week that he would be leaving his role as Leinster head coach in 2027, after 12 years in charge. And we ask Jake if he will be throwing his CV into the mix!

Later in the pod, Ian comes on to take an early look ahead at Ireland's Nations Championship campaign, which gets under way against Australia in Sydney on 4 July.

We discuss how Sam Prendergast has hit form at the right time as the Test window arrives, as well as running through some of the selection calls faced by Andy Farrell.

And we also pay tribute to Munster prop Oli Jager, who confirmed his retirement from rugby on medical grounds last weekend.

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Deja vu for Leinster and the Bulls

05:25 - Costly mistakes from high profile Springboks

13:55 - Leinster's scrum held its own

18:25 - Leo Cullen's Leinster legacy

21:00 - Is Jake White interested in the job?

23:30 - The risks and possible rewards by announcing Cullen's departure so early

30:00 - Sam Prendergast grabs the Bull by its horns

37:30 - How will the Ireland back row look against Australia?

41:15 - Billy Bohan set for his debut?

44:42 - Sam Illo's rise in 2025/26

51:28 - Oli Jager's retirement

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Neil Treacy and Bernard Jackman are joined by a special guest this week, as former South Africa and Bulls head coach Jake White helps us look ahead to the BKT United Rugby Championship Grand Final between Leinster and the Bulls.

White, who brought the Bulls to three URC finals during his time in charge (22:00), explains why Leinster remain the "benchmark" for others to follow in the URC, and why the South Africans are better equipped to get the better of Leo Cullen's side in Friday's final at Croke Park (12:15).

The ex-Springboks coach gives us the South African perspective on where this week's final will be won and lost, with a big focus on the scrum (30:35) and the first quarter.

And we also get White thoughts on some of the changing trends in rugby (04:00), as well as putting some listener questions for the World Cup winner (50:30).

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Neil Treacy is joined by Ireland number 8 Aoife Wafer, as she discusses a record breaking Six Nations for Ireland's women, winning a second successive Player of the Championship, and and her belief that Ireland can become the best team in the world.

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