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  • A stronger SME economy, higher business productivity and broader wealth creation through Employee Ownership: Andy Farquharson.
    Feb 11 2026

    @Michael Kerr and @Andy Farquharson dive into #employeeownership

    Andy founded @abettermonday and hosts the @alternativeexit podcast.

    They discuss;

    • Why Employee Ownership is such a viable exit strategy for small business owners
    • The benefits of EO for;
    • How EO has the potential to bridge wealth disparities and enhance productivity

    The conversation also covers what's needed to increase the number of successful EO transitions, including;

    1. The importance of engaging employees in the ownership transition process
    2. The need for a supportive regulatory framework, and
    3. The cultural shifts required for successful implementation.

    Key takeaways

    • Employee ownership can sustain small businesses and local economies.
    • There is a significant productivity increase in employee-owned businesses.
    • Employee ownership requires a cultural shift within organizations.
    • Education and access to data are crucial for employee engagement.
    • Employee ownership can help bridge wealth disparities in communities.
    • Transitioning to employee ownership needs capital and management expertise.
    • The regulatory environment must support employee ownership models.
    • Employee ownership is viable for various types of businesses.
    • Engaging employees early in the ownership conversation is essential.
    • Local investment can enhance the success of employee-owned businesses.

    Chapters

    00:00 Exploring Employee Ownership as an Exit Strategy

    03:15 Andy Farquharson's Journey to Employee Ownership

    08:04 The Benefits of Employee Ownership for All Stakeholders

    10:33 The Role of Benevolent Owners in Employee Ownership

    15:33 Addressing Wealth Disparity and Worker Disengagement

    19:11 Implementing the Owner Operating System

    24:10 Common Misunderstandings About Employee Ownership

    26:24 Engaging Owners in the Employee Ownership Conversation

    29:44 The Importance of Open Communication in Business Sales

    30:36 Aligning Incentives for Employee Engagement

    32:35 Preparing Businesses for Sale: Cultural Changes

    34:25 The Psychological Barriers of Exit Planning

    35:04 The Challenge of Business Improvement

    36:25 Employee Ownership: A Fit for All Businesses?

    39:48 The Continuum of Employee Ownership Models

    42:00 The Role of Small Business Owners

    44:39 Engagement Levels in Employee Ownership

    45:25 Bringing European Employee Ownership Models to Australia

    47:19 The Impact of Employee Ownership in Regional Communities

    49:27 Key Conditions for Successful Employee Ownership

    51:00 Top Priorities for Small Business Policy

    54:18 OTO outro 15-4-25.mp3

    @kerrcapital

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    Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.

    michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.au

    www.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au

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    55 min
  • Acquired serendipitously, and then transformed: Rebecca Barnett's 154 year old Maldon Bakery acquisition.
    Jan 28 2026

    @Rebecca Barnett serendipitously acquired the @Maldon Bakery The Bakery is 154 years old and also the oldest continuously running bakery in Australia. It's a hell of a legacy to take on!

    Find out how serendipity led her to this historic gem, her challenges in reviving its legacy, and the continuous improvement model that drives her success. From leveraging family history in baking to navigating the complexities of running a business, Rebecca shares her insights on;

    • entrepreneurship
    • the importance of community support
    • the value of mentorship
    • the art of baking

    Tune in to learn how passion and vision can turn a dream into reality.

    @kerrcapital

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    michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.au

    www.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au

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    49 min
  • My small business is my superannuation: Nigel Purchase founder Chase Basketball
    Dec 11 2025

    @Michael Kerr talks with @Nigel Purchase founder of Chase Basketball. Nigel and his team have just celebrated a 25 year business birthday. A mighty fine effort for this #familybusiness. Nigel is all in on his business. It's his passion, it's his superannuation and he still loves going to work!

    In the discussion Nigel reflects on the 25-year journey, talks about his still strong passion for coaching and the positive impact it has on young athletes. He discusses the challenges he faced in the early days, the importance of mentorship, and the unique dynamics of running a family business.

    The conversation also touches on;

    • the significance of community
    • his own business philosophy
    • the joy of doing what you love and the importance of building a supportive team.

    Takeaways;

    • Early challenges included navigating the popularity of basketball in a competitive sports market.
    • Mentorship played a crucial role in his business development.
    • Family involvement is key to the business's culture and success.
    • Community and belonging are central to the mission of Chase Basketball.
    • Growth is important, but it should not compromise the quality of the programs.
    • A positive work culture is fostered through recognition and support
    • Contentment with one's business and life is a significant achievement.

    Chapters

    00:00 The Journey of Chase Basketball

    09:19 Challenges and Growth in Business

    12:36 The Importance of Mentorship

    16:08 Family and Community in Business

    20:22 Future Generations and Legacy

    23:32 Finding Fulfillment in Business

    28:41 Reflecting on Purpose and Value

    30:02 Business as a Personal Superannuation

    32:33 The Balance of Growth and Contentment

    35:35 Finding Joy in Business and Community

    39:04 Future Aspirations and Growth in Basketball

    43:46 Philosophy of Business and Leadership

    49:10 Navigating Politics and Small Business Challenges

    @kerrcapital

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    Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.

    michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.au

    www.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au

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    49 min
  • From Corporate to Small Business Owner and back to Corporate: What Elise Heslop learned along the way.
    Dec 3 2025

    Host @Michael Kerr and guest @Elise Heslop talk through how and why Elise transitioned from a 'safe and secure' corporate role to life as an entrepreneur. After taking a family sabbatical in Italy, she founded Ply Room, a values-based furniture business. After she successfully sold Ply Room she's headed back to a new role in Corporate as Head of Marketing for @earlypay. A full circle with lots of challenges overcome, lessons learned, and pivotal moments.

    We dig deep into her experiences of being a solo founder and owner of a #smallbusiness;

    • The importance of trusting your instincts to the realities of running a small business
    • Finding resilience and adaptability
    • The highs and lows of business ownership
    • The courage it takes to follow your own path
    • Elise's family sabbatical in Italy as a pivotal moment in her career
    • The realities of small business ownership - loneliness, stress
    • Trying to find balance between business and personal life
    • Elise shares insights on finding a supportive network
    • What it's like to start then sell a business

    Chapters

    • 00:00:00 Introduction to Elise Heslop
    • 00:03:00 From Corporate to Entrepreneurship
    • 00:09:00 Founding Ply Room
    • 00:15:00 Challenges and Lessons Learned
    • 00:21:00 The Importance of Instincts
    • 00:27:00 Balancing Business and Personal Life
    • 00:33:00 Conclusion and Reflections

    @kerrcapital


    Thanks for listening. Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show.

    Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes.

    Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.

    michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.au

    www.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au

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    52 min
  • Enhancing Business Value with Employee Ownership: Craig West Founder of Succession Plus
    Nov 26 2025

    In this compelling episode of "Owner to Owner," host Michael Kerr dives deep with Dr. Craig West, the visionary founder of Succession Plus. Together, they unpick the transformative power of employee ownership programs and their profound impact on business value and succession planning. Discover how and why these strategies not only enhance business resilience but also foster community well-being. Dr. West shares invaluable insights on;

    • How employee ownership programs can significantly enhance business value.
    • Why early exit planning is crucial for business success.
    • How employee share plans help retain key staff and improve business resilience.
    • Why understanding business value is so essential for business owners.
    • How succession planning benefits both businesses and communities.
    • Employee ownership as a strategic exit option.
    • Why employee share plans are gaining popularity in Australia

    Chapters

    • 00:00:00 Introduction to Employee Ownership
    • 00:00:00 Benefits of Employee Share Plans
    • 00:00:00 Valuation and Exit Planning
    • 00:00:00 Succession Planning in Australia
    • 00:00:00 Community Impact and Business Resilience

    Thanks for listening. Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show.

    Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes.

    Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.

    michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.au

    www.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au

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    49 min
  • To grow your business be brave and get comfortable taking imperfect action, Gabe Villarreal
    Oct 17 2025

    @Gabe Villarreal founder, business buyer and business growth adviser on scaling a liquor business to a million dollars in monthly revenue. We discuss strategies for over coming the practical challenges of scaling and exiting businesses, as well as the merits of 'holding' businesses rather than selling.

    He stresses the importance of imperfect action, learning from failures, and having options in business.

    Gabe also talks about his experiences in different industries and countries, and the significance of building a business with an exit strategy in mind.

    Takeaways

    • The importance of imperfect action over waiting for perfection.
    • Learning from failures.
    • Having options in business is more important than the exit itself.
    • Building a business with an exit strategy in mind is essential.
    • Cash flow management is critical for business survival.
    • Acquiring an established business can be more efficient than starting from scratch.

    @michael kerr

    @kerr capital


    Thanks for listening. Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show.

    Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes.

    Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.

    michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.au

    www.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au

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    1 h et 14 min
  • Juggling Passion and Financial Sustainability in the NFP Sector: Jacquie Riddell
    Oct 1 2025

    @Jacquie Riddell is an experienced #NFP leader and current chair of the @CBAA. The NFP or #ThirdSector is presenting huge challenges to leadership, employees and the many volunteers. Jacquie and host @Michael Kerr talk about;

    • Financial sustainability
    • Mergers & Acquisitions in the NFP sector
    • The impact of overcrowding in the charity sector
    • The need for adopting new and better business models and #tech to improve effectiveness
    • Governance, collaboration, and the role of philanthropy
    • The future of charities
    • The phenomenon of 'accidental retirement' (read Jacquie's article on this here https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7334094500333531138/
    • How professionals can transition from corporate roles to the not-for-profit sector

    Some key takeaways

    1. Not-for-profits need reliable cash, not just goodwill.
    2. The charity sector is overcrowded with over 60,000 charities in Australia.
    3. Passion alone is not enough; capability is essential.
    4. Successful charities adopt business models similar to for-profits.
    5. Governance is critical for the growth of not-for-profits.
    6. Mergers and collaborations can enhance sustainability in the charity sector.
    7. Philanthropy is a major opportunity for charities, especially during wealth transfer.
    8. Post-COVID challenges include reduced revenue and volunteerism.
    9. B Corps represent a growing trend in socially responsible business.

    Chapters:

    00:00 The Role of Not-for-Profits in Society

    05:15 Challenges and Opportunities in the Charity Sector

    10:08 Adopting Business Models in Not-for-Profits

    15:06 Governance and Capability in Charities

    20:25 Social Enterprises and Merging Opportunities

    25:18 Collaborative Solutions in Community Broadcasting

    27:04 The Importance of Sustainable Revenue

    28:59 The Rise of B Corporations and Social Responsibility

    31:11 Governance and Effective Leadership in Nonprofits

    33:22 The Reality of Nonprofit Work and Organizational Capacity

    35:36 Funding Challenges and Opportunities for Charities

    37:54 Navigating Post-COVID Challenges in the Charity Sector

    39:33 Accidental Retirement: A New Perspective on Career Transitions

    41:10 Policy Recommendations for the Charity Sector

    @kerrcapital

    Thanks for listening. Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show.

    Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes.

    Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.

    michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.au

    www.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au

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    42 min
  • Decoding AI: Strategies for Small Business Success: David Brudenell, Decidr.
    Sep 18 2025

    @Michael Kerr welcomes @David Brudenell Executive Director from @decidr.ai discuss the challenges and opportunities for Australian SMEs in adopting AI strategies.

    They explore the National AI Readiness Index launched by Decidr, the importance of system design, and how AI can transform small businesses. The conversation delves into the potential of AI to provide #SMEs with the equivalent of thousands of employees, the role of agentic platforms, and the need for businesses to adapt to the fast-paced AI landscape.

    Takeaways:

    • SMEs need a system built for action, not just belief
    • Most businesses lack a plan to integrate AI effectively
    • AI can provide SMEs with the equivalent of thousands of employees
    • System design is crucial for successful AI integration
    • AI is a horizontal technology that thrives on context
    • Agentic platforms can unshackle businesses from administrative tasks
    • AI can transform hospitality by handling bookings and customer service
    • SMEs have the most to gain from AI but are at risk of being outpaced
    • AI can help businesses scale and become more resilient

    @kerrcapital

    Thanks for listening. Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show.

    Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes.

    Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.

    michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.au

    www.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au

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    50 min