Jasmine Douglas and Zoe Kezia on Building a Healthy Friendship Through Independence, Support, and Stability.
Jasmine and Zoe explain they met years before Babes on Waves—initially through nights out and mutual connections (including Zoe knowing Jasmine’s brother first)—with gaps in communication before reconnecting through work when Zoe assisted Jasmine’s first Babes on Waves shoot and later became her assistant. They discuss how the friendship gradually became close, why Jasmine considers it her healthiest adult friendship.
00:00 Welcome + Meet Jasmine (Babes & Waves) and Zoe
00:26 Who They Are: Careers, Modeling, and Babes & Waves Origins
01:26 How They Met: After-Party Era and Early Gaps
02:58 From Instagram to Business: The First Babes & Waves Shoot
03:48 Assistant Era: Systems, Organization, and Finding Direction
04:45 When It Became Real Friendship: Shifts, Impressions, and Ambition
06:35 Why It’s Their Healthiest Friendship: Boundaries Over Codependency
08:15 How They Support Each Other: Space, “No”s, and Virtual Coworking
10:38 Lessons Learned: Systems (Trello) + Secure Love Without Constant Contact
12:50 Attachment Styles & Trust: Independence, Abandonment Fears, and Consistency
14:50 How Friendship Shapes Your Career Confidence
15:36 Negotiating Rates, Handling Difficult Clients & Avoiding Self-Interest Advice
16:51 Friendships as Home: Triggers, Healing & Building Self-Respect
18:55 ‘You Can’t Love Someone If You Don’t Love Yourself’—Reframing the Quote
20:14 Proud Moments: Building Community, Brand Deals & ‘Flying the Plane’
22:53 Jazz on Zoe’s Glow-Up: From Admin to Red Carpets
24:58 Quick Fire Game: Compliments, Gratitude & One-Word Verdict
27:30 Closing Thoughts + The Host Gets Put in the Hot Seat Next Time
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