The results are in.

With an 84% turnout, Napo members have voted to accept the latest probation pay offer — with 75.2% in favour and 24.8% against. It’s a decisive outcome, but not a simple one.

In this episode, Ian and Ben reflect honestly on what the result means — not just in numbers, but in how members are feeling. From the strength of engagement to the frustrations of those who wanted to go further, this is a conversation about where we are now as a union.

Crucially, it’s also about what comes next.

How do we build on this moment? How do we bring members back together? And how do we make sure this level of energy leads to real change?

A short, immediate response to a big moment for probation staff.

Produced and Presented by Taytula Burke

In this extended episode, we bring together Sarah Woolley (BFAWU), Henry Fowler (GFTU), and Ranjit Singh (NAPO) to explore one of the defining questions facing the movement today: what really builds power? Is it membership numbers or active, organised workers?

From historic decline and anti-union legislation to grassroots organising, strike action, and the risks of becoming a “service model”, this conversation goes beyond the surface.

Presented and Produced by Taytula Burke

New immigration rules are putting experienced probation staff at risk of losing their jobs — or even their right to stay in the UK.

In this episode, Napo member Stefani explains how recent visa changes, including a £38,700 salary threshold, are affecting overseas colleagues working in probation.

We explore the human impact behind the policy, the risks to an already stretched workforce, and why the union is calling for urgent action — including transitional protections for existing staff.

This is a conversation about fairness, solidarity, and what it really means to value public service.

Presented and Produced by Taytula Burke