Frankie is not just an advocate — she is a force. Long before prison entered her life, she was already fighting for the rights of children and people with disabilities, driven by compassion and a deep sense of justice. The daughter of a police officer who lost his life saving others on 9/11, service and humanity were woven into who she is.

But everything changed when the man she loved was incarcerated and subjected to severe mistreatment and medical neglect. Instead of breaking, Frankie turned her knowledge, voice, and relentless determination toward fighting the system to protect him. Even after personal betrayal, she continues to advocate for the injustice he endured — a true reflection of her character, integrity, and heart.

Through humor, truth, and fearless transparency, Frankie uses her platform to educate, expose, and inspire. Her videos are as powerful as they are hilarious, and her mission is rooted in one simple belief: humanity must come first.

I’m incredibly grateful to sit down with Frankie today. Her story will move you, challenge you, and remind you what real strength looks like.

Make sure you follow Frankie — you don’t want to miss her voice, her fight, or her impact.

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Butterfly never expected her life to change the day she walked into the prison as a therapist. Adam was known across the yard — a troublemaker, a leader, and the go-to guy. What began as professional contact slowly turned into something neither of them planned… or could stop.

In this episode, Butterfly shares how their relationship progressed and was inevitable- they were meant to be. She opens up about the emotional toll, the highs and lows of working inside, and why her success helping incarcerated men was seen as a threat rather than an achievement.

Despite the controversy, the accusations, and Adam now facing serious new charges that could keep him imprisoned for years, Butterfly has made one promise — she isn’t leaving his side. She speaks candidly about navigating love inside the system, fighting to keep her professional license, the lessons from her past that shaped her work, and why — in her experience — some of the most trustworthy people she met were the men behind the bars, not the staff.

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Marie’s story starts on a pen pal website — unexpected, intense, and complicated from the beginning. She met a man 20 years younger than her at a time when she barely recognized herself. Overweight, exhausted from a previous relationship, and feeling like a “plain Jane,” Marie had lost the drive to take care of herself or feel desirable.

What followed was a two-year emotional rollercoaster filled with insecurity, jealousy, and unanswered questions. Was he talking to other women? Was her size holding her back? Was the age gap a fantasy or a ticking time bomb? Marie opens up about how deeply those doubts affected her — and how wanting to be “enough” for him pushed her to finally change.

She lost the weight. She found her confidence again.

And then… the power shifted.

Now, Marie finds herself on the other side — being chased, desired, and fully aware of it. What once felt like insecurity has turned into control, and what began as vulnerability has evolved into a constant back-and-forth power struggle between two people who can’t seem to let go.

This episode doesn’t offer easy answers or a fairytale ending — just a raw, honest look at desire, transformation, and what happens when the balance of power in a relationship flips. Where they’ll end up next? Even Marie doesn’t know — but this is their story so far.

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Quan’s story is one of almost making it—almost escaping the cycle, almost breaking free. What started as a conversation about a clothing brand quickly turned into a powerful lesson in what not to do.

In this episode, we sit down with Quan, who is incarcerated in Connecticut for murder, for a conversation that quickly moves far beyond fashion. Quan opens up about growing up without stability—losing his mother to addiction at a young age, entering the foster system, and navigating life without guidance. Despite it all, he graduated high school and earned a full-ride football scholarship to an HBCU. Then he lost it. When a second full ride came along, it felt like redemption was finally within reach.

Just days later, everything fell apart.

Quan speaks candidly about the shooting that led to his incarceration, how law enforcement attempted to tie a reopened cold case to him, and how years in prison forced him to confront his choices and mature in ways he never had on the outside. Now older and more self-aware, Quan’s mission is to use his story to reach young people before it’s too late.

He also shares details about his clothing brand—one of the few ways he’s trying to build something meaningful from behind the walls.

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In this episode, we sit down with Danny Ratliff, author of From Doing Meth Shards to Running Prison Yards. After his first conviction—charges tied to operating a meth lab—Danny was thrown headfirst into the realities of prison life. With no prior experience inside, he quickly learned that survival meant alignment, ultimately joining a branch of the Aryan Brotherhood.

Danny takes us through his transformation from a nobody to a shot caller, sharing gripping stories from inside and key moments from his book. He also opens up about how he shifted his mindset, earned work release, and walked out the door on his earliest possible release date. A major part of that journey? His fiancée, Jerry—who never stopped reminding him what truly mattered: family, focus, and life after prison.

This is a powerful conversation about survival, choices, accountability, and the possibility of change.

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In this episode, we sit down with Nancy Peters, a Connecticut-based advocate who recently founded Brothers and Sisters United in Action (BSUACT)—an organization born from lived experience, resilience, and a deep commitment to justice.

Nancy shares how her journey into advocacy began, the moments that pushed her from silent supporter to active organizer, and why she chose to create BSUACT as a space for families, loved ones, and community members to come together and demand change. We talk about the emotional toll of advocacy, the importance of collective action, and what it really takes to challenge a system that thrives on isolation and silence.

This conversation isn’t just about incarceration—it’s about unity, hope, and the power of ordinary people standing together to fight for reform and a reimagined future for those impacted by the system.

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We’re opening 2026 with a conversation every mother needs to hear—even if she hopes she never will.

In this episode, I sit down with Black Sheep Mom, a registered psychologist and the voice behind a powerful Substack blog, to talk about what happens when your child goes down a dark path—and the world decides they were destined to fail.

As both a mental health professional and a mother of an incarcerated son, Black Sheep Mom offers rare insight into the shame, grief, and emotional isolation mothers carry when their child is criminalized—often after years of being overlooked, mislabeled, and set up for failure as early as high school.

We talk about:

• The quiet shame mothers are taught to carry

• Processing guilt when you “did everything right”

• How systems fail kids long before prison does

• Why judgment hurts more than the sentence

• And how to survive emotionally when motherhood doesn’t look the way you imagined

This episode isn’t about crime—it’s about humanity, resilience, and the truth no one warns mothers about.

Because you never think it will be you… until it is.

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Our 2025 finale features Heather and Andrew — the sweetest couple with a love story that starts in the most unexpected place: a gas station parking lot. A window knock turned into inseparability, but addiction quickly complicated their relationship.
What followed were painful cycles, failed rehab attempts, broken trust, and eventually Andrew’s incarceration. But that wasn’t the end — it was the beginning of their rebuilding.
Now both sober, living deliberately through NA, and fully committed to one another, Heather and Andrew show us what real recovery and real partnership looks like. Their energy together is infectious, their love is obvious, and interviewing them as a couple was one of our favorite experiences yet.

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