He interviewed Sam Altman in 2017, before most of the world had heard of him, spent hundreds of hours inside some of the darkest corners of the internet, from extremist forums to the darknet, and has become one of the most trusted voices on AI and society in the UK. Today, Jamie Bartlett is a five time author, tech journalist, and the person Anna wanted in her corner for this conversation.
In this episode of Money and Us, Anna sits down with Jamie for a candid and compelling conversation about AI, money, and what it really means for all of us right now.
Jamie talks openly about the dangers most people aren't aware of. The sycophancy built into every AI model that makes it almost impossible not to trust. The hallucinations that sound so convincing even experts get fooled. What AI really means for jobs, money, and the future of work, and how to use it wisely without being misled by it.
This isn't a conversation for tech experts. It's for real people trying to navigate a world that's changing faster than most of us anticipated. Whether you're worried about AI, curious about it, or simply trying to figure out what it means for your life and your finances, this one is for you.
Key Moments:
• Why 3.5 billion prompts are entered into ChatGPT alone every single day
• The golden rule of technology and why criminals and outsiders are always the earliest adopters
• Why Jamie argued with Sam Altman in 2017 and what that conversation revealed
• The story of Alan from Toronto and how AI hallucination combined with sycophancy led one man into a genuine delusion
• Why every AI model is built to flatter you and why that's more dangerous than most people realise
• What AI really means for jobs, money, and the future of work
• How to use AI wisely without being misled
• What wealth means to Jamie, and why his answer is about time, not money
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:00:45 Fact or Fiction: How Many AI Prompts Are Sent Every Day?
00:02:34 Why Jamie Studies People, Not Technology
00:04:23 The Story That Changed His Career
00:09:59 Growing Up Around Computers
00:12:59 When Jamie Realised AI Would Change Everything
00:18:56 Why Language Is the Key to AI
00:23:22 How AI Will Change Society Forever
00:28:48 Why AI Lies and Flatters You
00:39:02 The Man Who Thought AI Helped Him Invent New Maths
00:46:55 Are Our Jobs at Risk?
00:54:03 How Parents Should Prepare Their Children for AI
00:57:41 The Best Ways to Use AI Creatively
01:03:11 Should You Trust AI With Money?
01:06:22 The Biggest Mistakes People Make With AI
01:10:34 How to Write Better AI Prompts
01:15:42 What the Future of AI Really Looks Like
01:22:18 Final Thoughts
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