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Remember when the worst thing about going back to school was getting your lunch money stolen and not the fear of your embarrassing moment going viral? Vanessa and Kayla certainly do.

In this nostalgic episode, we're diving into our drastically different educational backgrounds - from Vanessa's strict Catholic school experience complete with nuns checking skirt lengths to Kayla's journey through multiple schools as a foster child navigating racial identity. We share how these formative years shaped who we are today, from developing code-switching abilities to overcoming the infamous "Catholic guilt."

The playground was our battlefield where Red Rover selections determined your social standing and dodgeball left both physical and emotional scars. We're talking about the real, face-to-face bullying of the 90s versus today's relentless cyberbullying - debating which generation had it worse while acknowledging each had unique challenges.

You'll laugh as we recount our detention stories (or "ASS" - After School Suspension, as Kayla's school called it), passing handwritten notes in class, and playing MASH to predict our futures. There's even a surprise Christian rap performance from Kayla that you absolutely won't want to miss!

For anyone who grew up in the 90s or early 2000s, this episode will transport you back to a simpler time before iPads replaced textbooks and when showing your personality meant colorful socks under your uniform. And for today's students? Consider this your anthropological study of how your parents survived school without smartphones.

Share your own school memories with us on social media @milkandhoneypod and let us know: would you rather face the physical bullies of yesteryear or navigate today's digital minefield?

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Vanessa and Kayla dive into the complexities of breakups, cancel culture, and AI's impact on their careers while celebrating personal milestones.

• Kayla opens up about her post-breakup journey and rediscovering herself after a year and a half relationship
• Discussion about how AI is replacing models in the industry, with Vanessa sharing her experience being replaced by an AI blonde model
• Exploration of Sydney Sweeney's American Eagle "My genes are blue" controversy and whether it deserved the backlash
• Critical conversation about cancel culture and how it prevents meaningful dialogue between people with different perspectives
• Celebration of Kayla's 25th anniversary of becoming a foster child and how it changed her life trajectory
• Movie recommendations including the new Dave Franco/Allison Brie horror-comedy and Nobody 2
• Honest discussion about long-distance relationships and the importance of communication
• The Honey Jar question: "Name something that should be embarrassing, but absolutely isn't for you"

Next week: Vanessa and Kayla will share stories and photos from their school days, comparing experiences growing up in Catholic and Southern Baptist Christian schools.

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Grief arrives in countless forms—sometimes through death, other times through separation, and often through the quiet evolution of our own identities. In this vulnerable conversation, Vanessa opens up about losing her father suddenly at 19, while Kayla shares her experience of being torn from her mother at age 9 when her mom went to prison.

The raw emotion is palpable as Vanessa recalls walking into her childhood home after her father's passing and feeling that unmistakable "cold breeze" of absence. She shares beautiful memories of her quiet, kind father who always made her mom's morning coffee and taught her the value of truly listening to others. Meanwhile, Kayla recounts the confusion and heartbreak of being placed in foster care without understanding why, screaming for her mother through the windows of a van as they were driven away.

Both hosts explore how these profound losses shaped their adult relationships and perspectives. Vanessa wonders how different her romantic relationships might have been with her father's protective guidance, while Kayla reveals how foster care taught her to build emotional walls that she's still working to dismantle in therapy. They share the uncomfortable truth that grief doesn't simply fade with time—it becomes part of who we are, appearing in unexpected waves throughout our lives.

Perhaps most valuable is their discussion about what not to say to someone who's grieving. Phrases like "time heals all wounds," "they'd want you to be strong," or commenting on someone's funeral attire (yes, this actually happened to Vanessa) miss the mark entirely. Instead, they suggest simple presence, practical support, and the freedom to express grief without timeline or expectation.

Listen in as we explore how loss, in all its forms, becomes absorbed into our story—not as an ending, but as an ongoing conversation with our past, present, and future selves. And if you're grieving anything right now, we see you and we've got you.

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This week on Milk & Honeys, Coldplay accidentally ended a man’s career, Ozzy Osbourne made his final exit, and Kayla is spiraling over Christian Grey in a way that’s probably not healthy. We also dive into the cursed Labubu plush craze (yes, the demon doll is real and Kayla owns one now), and debate what level of control we’d tolerate if it came with a penthouse and a private jet.

Topics include:

• The CEO who got caught kissing HR on the kiss cam and resigned faster than you can say “fix it in PR.”
• Ozzy Osbourne’s legendary life, wild marriage to Sharon, and why losing a musician you’ve never met still hits hard.
• Kayla’s Fifty Shades rewatch — what’s sexy, what’s psychotic, and would Christian Grey be hot if he wasn’t rich?
• Labubu: the viral plush toy conspiracy that’s either adorable or a portal to hell.

Hit subscribe if you want HR scandal breakdowns, celebrity eulogies, and plush demon updates on a weekly basis.

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Relationships end for countless reasons, but what happens when the person isn't "bad" – you're just fundamentally different? In this deeply personal episode, Kayla opens up about her recent breakup from a year-and-a-half relationship that ended just a week before recording.

"I'm a professional self-sabotager," Kayla admits while exploring her fearful-avoidant attachment style. Her candid reflection on how childhood trauma – being uprooted frequently, experiencing foster care, and separation from her mother – impacts her adult relationships resonates powerfully. She shares the particular challenge of grieving someone who's still alive but no longer in your life, a unique pain many listeners will recognize.

The conversation evolves naturally into dating horror stories (including an awkward Soho House encounter with a date who claimed to be "sick"), green flags to look for, and those little "icks" that can doom a relationship before it starts. Kayla and Vanessa share personal lessons they've learned the hard way, like Kayla realizing she shouldn't date men whose primary goal is becoming a husband and father when she doesn't share those aspirations.

Between vulnerable moments come bursts of laughter and wisdom about finding balance between career ambition and personal contentment. "We have big thoughts, big vision, big energy," Vanessa notes, "but those little pieces of gratitude are going to help reform and reshape that mold for you."

Whether you're processing your own breakup, navigating the dating world, or simply trying to understand your attachment style better, this episode offers both comfort and clarity. Listen in, take a few cleansing breaths with us, and remember: healing isn't linear, but it is possible.

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We dive into Justin Bieber's surprise album "Swag," JoJo Siwa's confusing rebrand, Scheana Shay's shocking memoir revelation, and why "The Studio" might be the most accurate portrayal of Hollywood we've ever seen.

• Justin Bieber's new album shows his growth as an artist and maturity as a father and husband
• The public's harsh criticism of celebrities often fails to consider their humanity and right to enjoy themselves
• JoJo Siwa's dramatic transformation from her signature style to a 1950s aesthetic has left fans and critics confused
• Scheana Shay revealed her husband Brock Davies cheated on her while pregnant, raising questions about the timing of this disclosure
• "The Studio" on Apple TV+ perfectly captures Hollywood's complex inner workings, power dynamics, and absurdities
• Our new segment "The Honey Jar" reveals our villain origin stories and why we'd choose being rich and hated over broke and beloved

Join us next week for more pop culture deep dives and the return of the Honey Jar!

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Kayla and Vanessa dive into a candid conversation about toxic traits, emotional baggage, and how we can acknowledge our flaws while still being fabulous.

• Examining toxic traits we're aware of but not working on, including people-pleasing and emotional avoidance
• Discussing inherited toxic traits from family members and how they shape our relationships
• Reflecting on whether we're where we thought we'd be in life versus current reality
• Exploring how one different choice can completely change life's trajectory
• Embracing the freedom to be "selfish" at this stage of life without children or major responsibilities
• Finding humor in our flaws while acknowledging areas for potential growth

We're always striving to build an authentic community where we can share our real selves. Connect with us on social media and let us know what toxic traits you're embracing or working on in your life.

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Kayla and Vanessa take the reins for a no-guest episode, opening up about personal journeys, pop culture, and embarrassingly real confessions in true unfiltered fashion.

• Kayla shares insights from her therapy journey with "Alejandro," including the revelation that she's grieving her former self after leaving WWE
• Detailed review of Megan 2.0 movie, comparing it to "Mission Impossible with an AI female robot"
• Discussion about Katy Perry and Orlando Bloom's breakup after nine years together
• Debate about whether Katy Perry actually went to space with Jeff Bezos' company
• Hilarious disagreement about swimming in communal resort pools in Vegas
• Candid confessions about desperate public urination situations
• Preview of upcoming episodes on toxic traits and friendship breakups

Join us next week as we dive into toxic traits and friendship breakups! Let us know what you think about AI taking over the world, what you'd do with $50 million, and if you believe Katy Perry actually went to space.