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In honor of Pregnancy and Infant Loss Awareness Month, Jenn is joined by her sister-in-law, Carolyn, for a deeply personal conversation about pregnancy loss, friendship, and navigating two very different pregnancy experiences.

When Jenn and Carolyn discovered they were pregnant just two weeks apart, they were excited to experience pregnancy and early motherhood together. They imagined maternity leave side by side, raising cousins close in age, and sharing all the milestones that come with becoming moms.

But at nine weeks, Jenn learned there was no heartbeat. While Jenn navigated the grief of pregnancy loss, Carolyn's pregnancy continued.

In this episode, Jenn and Carolyn look back on a season they've never really talked about in depth beyond simply living through it together. They reflect on the complicated emotions that can come with grieving a pregnancy while someone you love continues theirs, the ways we try to protect each other, and what it means to hold space for someone else's joy while carrying your own grief.

This isn't a conversation about having all the answers. It's an honest reflection on family, friendship, grief, and the ways we show up for one another through life's hardest moments.

A gentle reminder: If you're navigating pregnancy loss, pregnancy after loss, or supporting someone you love through either experience, you don't have to feel just one thing. Your grief, your joy, and your complicated emotions all deserve room.

Content warning: This episode includes discussion of miscarriage, pregnancy loss, grief, and pregnancy after loss. Please listen when and if it feels right for you.

🤍 Thanks for being here with us on Messy Minded Mama.

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We love a meaningful motherhood conversation. We really do.

But sometimes...we just need to laugh about the fact that we have somehow become the people who say things like:

“Please stop licking that.... or me!”

“Why does everything always go in your mouth?"

And somehow, these are completely normal sentences in our lives now.

So today, we're taking a break from the heavier motherhood conversations and embracing the completely unhinged side of being a mom.

We're talking about:

🤯 The weirdest things we've actually said to our kids

🤐 The things we think but probably shouldn't say out loud

🧠 The 47 completely random thoughts currently taking up space in our mom brains

🙃 The things we've done as moms that our pre-kid selves would absolutely judge us for

😂 And our completely unhinged mom confessions

No deep dive. No big takeaway. No life-changing motherhood wisdom.

Just Kate and Jenn talking about the weird, ridiculous, mildly questionable things that come with being a mom.

Because sometimes motherhood is beautiful.

Sometimes it's hard. And super weird.

And honestly? We think all of it deserves a little laugh.

Listen in and let us know: What's the most completely unhinged thing you've ever said, thought, or done as a mom?

We promise not to judge. We've probably done it too. 😂

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September is NICU Awareness Month, and we knew we wanted to use this month to shine a light on something that can sometimes get lost in the NICU story: the mother behind the baby.

In this episode of Messy Minded Mama, we’re joined by Stephanie, founder of Mama, I See You, an organization created to support and care for moms navigating the NICU experience.

Stephanie shares her own deeply personal NICU journey, what she learned about what NICU moms really need, and how her experience inspired her to create Mama, I See You.

We talk about the fear, exhaustion, uncertainty, and isolation that can come with a NICU stay—and why supporting the baby also means remembering to support the mama.

Because sometimes she doesn't need us to fix it.

She just needs someone to say: Mama, I see you.

❤️ Support Mama, I See You

After hearing Stephanie's story and learning more about the incredible work Mama, I See You is doing, Messy Minded Mama made a donation to support NICU moms—and we would love for you to join us.

If this episode resonates with you, consider making a donation, sharing Mama, I See You with someone who may benefit from their support, or finding another way to get involved.

Mama, I See You is currently supporting NICU mamas here in Colorado, but that doesn’t mean you have to be in Colorado to make an impact. You can support their work, share their mission, or look for ways to show up for NICU families in your own community. Whether it’s donating, dropping off a meal, checking in on a mama, or simply reminding her that she hasn’t been forgotten, there are so many ways to say, I see you.

Every contribution helps remind a NICU mama that she hasn't been forgotten.

Donate or learn more about Mama, I See You:
🌐 Website: https://www.mamaiseeyou.com/
📱 Instagram: mamaiseeyou.co

And if you can't donate right now, that's okay. Share this episode. Share their mission. Check in on a NICU mom you know. Sometimes showing up starts with simply letting someone know: I see you.

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