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  • Magic Markets #263: The Oil Trade
    Mar 4 2026

    With the conflict in Iran still fresh in the market at time of recording, we decided to talk about the commodity that everyone is looking at: oil. And for South African investors, that means that Sasol comes up as well.

    Mohammed Nalla tends to be an oil bull, while The Finance Ghost is only really interested in putting the downstream products in his car. But there's no denying that oil plays a role in global markets, particularly as it has a tendency to spike to $100 in times of crisis.

    Perhaps the most surprising insight is this: over the past two decades, the oil majors have done a spectacular job of creating shareholder value despite the oil price showing little in the way of underlying inflation. Their approach of owning the value chain has been the right one.

    Today’s Topics:

    • The oil ecosystem and the difference between long-term views and tactical trading
    • The share price performance of major names like ExxonMobil and Chevron
    • Sasol's decoupling from the oil price and how operational improvements could increase correlation
    • A quick look at a trade that worked well after a recent Magic Markets Premium show: long Netflix

    Get in touch:

    • The Magic Markets Website
    • @MagicMarketsPod, @FinanceGhost, and @MohammedNalla (all on X)
    • Pop us a note on LinkedIn

    Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Please speak to your personal financial advisor.

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    23 min
  • Magic Markets #262: Free Cash Flow - Friend or Foe? (with Dagon Sachs of Aylett & Co.)
    Feb 25 2026

    What’s the vital difference between a management team that creates value and one that destroys it? Is the concept of a "capital-light business" always positive? And what about management alignment and incentives?

    This episode is the first in a new series - The Finance Ghost and Mohammed Nalla are bringing you some of South Africa’s best boutique fund managers, kicking off with Aylett & Co. represented by Dagon Sachs. As a founding member of Aylett and a highly-experienced asset manager who has spent over two decades mastering the art of stock picking, there's much to learn from Dagon.

    With the hospitality industry as a useful case study, this podcast is an important look at how to assess the way that corporate management teams behave with shareholder money.

    Today’s Topics:

    • A brief overview of Aylett's ethos of being ‘benchmark agnostic’ and ‘eating your own cooking’ by investing alongside clients.
    • Why capital-light businesses with high growth tend to be unicorns – and priced like them, too!
    • How capex-heavy businesses can ironically be better allocaters of capital than capital-light businesses that may be tempted into acquisitions.
    • How to identify corporate management teams that prioritise rational economics over prestige, especially in an egocentric industry like hospitality.
    • The cyclical nature of the hotel industry and the surprising similarity it has to mining in terms of replacement cost for assets.

    Find out more about Aylett & Co. here:

    • Aylett.co.za
    • Reach out to Dagon Sachs on LinkedIn

    Get in touch:

    • The Magic Markets Website
    • @MagicMarketsPod, @FinanceGhost, and @MohammedNalla (all on X)
    • Pop us a note on LinkedIn

    Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Please speak to your personal financial advisor. Aylett & Co. (Pty) Ltd is an authorised Financial Services Provider, licence number 20513.

    Chapters
    • (00:00:00) - Introduction: Introducing the 2026 Boutique Manager Series
    • (00:01:36) - The Aylett & Co. Ethos: 21 Years of Bottom-Up Asset Picking
    • (00:03:28) - Benchmark Agnostic: Why "Eating Your Own Cooking" Matters
    • (00:06:42) - Capital Allocation 101: Future Cash Flows and the Math of Value
    • (00:08:21) - Incentives and Trust: Why Shareholder Alignment Is Everything
    • (00:09:59) - Capital-Light vs. Capex-Heavy: Searching for the "Nirvana" Unicorn
    • (00:11:47) - The Share Buyback Trap: Rational Thinking in a Listed Environment
    • (00:13:08) - Hospitality as a Case Study: The Pivot from Asset-Heavy to Franchise
    • (00:14:58) - The OpCo/PropCo Debate: Does It Make Sense to Own the Real Estate?
    • (00:17:30) - International Trends: Hyatt, Marriott, and the Global Brand Advantage
    • (00:19:29) - Deep Dive into Southern Sun: Understanding Regional Cyclicality
    • (00:21:00) - Return on Ego: Avoiding Rationality Traps in Hotel Building
    • (00:22:44) - Replacement Costs: Why High Entry Barriers Protect Existing Players
    • (00:24:40) - The Mining Analogy: Discipline, Maintenance, and Counter-Cyclicality
    • (00:26:56) - The South African Risk Premium: Tourism Headlines and Safety Margins
    • (00:29:03) - Conclusion: Plagiarizing Global Success for Local Portfolios
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    31 min
  • Magic Markets #261: The AI Effect on Free Cash Flow
    Feb 18 2026

    2026 has seen US tech giants throwing enough capex at AI infrastructure to fund a small country. Amazon has guided capex that is roughly half of South Africa's entire GDP!

    But with fracture lines appearing in the AI landscape, is the ROI really justifiable? And if not, will Big Tech even feel it, or will someone else be left to foot the bill?

    In this episode of Magic Markets, The Finance Ghost and Mohammed Nalla explore the dangerous games that giants like Amazon, Alphabet and Microsoft are playing, exhausting their free cash flow on data centres and AI projects with a potential half-life of an overripe avocado.

    Alphabet is borrowing money from a hundred years down the line. Is that the sign of the top? And if not, then what is?

    Today’s Topics:

    • A reminder of the US railroad bubble and how AI stacks up in comparison
    • The market is punishing Microsoft and Amazon for deteriorating free cash flow margins
    • The disruption to the valuation of the SaaS giants like Adobe and Salesforce
    • Free cash flow margins across various Big Tech names and how this has changed over time
    • Are the hyperscalers too big to fail, or could things go that badly?

    Get in touch:

    • The Magic Markets Website
    • @MagicMarketsPod, @FinanceGhost, and @MohammedNalla (all on X)
    • Pop us a note on LinkedIn

    Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Please speak to your personal financial advisor.

    Chapters
    • (00:00:00) - Introduction & A Technical Glitch
    • (00:01:15) - Big Tech’s AI Capex Pig
    • (00:02:45) - Is AI Eating the World?
    • (00:04:15) - Why Meta is Spending 100% of its 2026 Cash Flow on Capex
    • (00:05:41) - The Absurdity of Alphabet's 100-Year Bond
    • (00:06:50) - Why Salesforce and Adobe are Under Fire
    • (00:08:15) - The Cyclical Capex Pig: TSMC’s Struggle with the Foundry Model
    • (00:10:30) - Microsoft: From Enterprise Software to Risky Infrastructure
    • (00:12:15) - Amazon: Reinvesting Profits That Haven’t Happened Yet
    • (00:13:50) - The Canary in the Coal Mine: Oracle’s Credit Stress and CDS Spikes
    • (00:15:30) - Too Big to Fail? The Contagion Risk of a Tech Infrastructure Bubble
    • (00:18:15) - ASML’s Dilemma: European Regulation and the Tax on Unrealised Gains
    • (00:20:45) - How 2026 AI Spend Matches the 19th Century Railroad Bubble
    • (00:23:00) - "Vibe Coding" and Disruption: Can AI Replace the SaaS Giants?
    • (00:24:47) - Conclusion
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    25 min
  • Magic Markets #260: Grocery Giants and the Value Retail Rotation
    Feb 11 2026

    While the world’s athletes compete for Winter Olympic Gold, Walmart has secured a podium finish of its own – becoming the first retailer to skate past the $1 trillion market cap milestone. But is this value retail rally a high-speed slalom to success or a slippery slope?

    In this episode of Magic Markets, The Finance Ghost and Mohammed Nalla unpack why US consumers might be ditching big brands for private labels and dollar stores. Closer to home in South Africa, they discuss why shrinking into prosperity can work for apparel, but not for grocery.

    Moe explores how Walmart has entrenched itself as a dominant US retailer through a relentless focus on fulfilment and logistics. With the chain in its infancy in South Africa (having just opened their third store), Walmart faces a fierce battle for the notoriously price-sensitive South African consumer’s wallet.

    While Shoprite builds a world-class omnichannel empire, powered by an army of Sixty60 scooters, Pick n Pay finds itself in dire straits. The market is valuing its core business at less than zero once you strip out its pure-play discounter, Boxer.

    Is there a chance for Woolworths and SPAR to claw back some market share here? Can Walmart make a dent?

    Today’s Topics:

    • How Walmart garnered ‘Big Tech’-esque success (and why Moe is so optimistic)
    • Why Shoprite is no longer just a grocer, but a fulfilment engine that competitors struggle to replicate.
    • Why Boxer was up 11% this past year while PnP continues to struggle, and what this says about grocery scale economics.
    • Why SPAR’s franchise model is struggling to compete with the centralised power of omnichannel retail.
    • A look at why the US’s Dollar Tree and Dollar General are flying high while high-street discretionary spend is hitting a wall.

    Get in touch:

    • The Magic Markets Website
    • @MagicMarketsPod, @FinanceGhost, and @MohammedNalla (all on X)
    • Pop us a note on LinkedIn

    Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Please speak to your personal financial advisor.

    Chapters
    • (00:00:00) - Introduction & the Latest in Magic Markets Premium
    • (00:01:37) - The Retail Temperature Check: Resilience vs. Reality
    • (00:02:32) - The Kirkland Shift: Why Consumers Are Choosing Value Over Brands
    • (00:03:44) - Walmart’s $1 Trillion Milestone: Is Grocery The New Big Tech?
    • (00:05:18) - Winning the Wallet: How Logistics and Apps Drive Margin Mix
    • (00:06:52) - The Sixty60 Ecosystem: Can Competitors Catch Shoprite’s Engine?
    • (00:09:09) - JSE Retail Realities: A Shocking Year For Apparel
    • (00:10:45) - Black Friday vs. Christmas: Online vs. In-Store Demand
    • (00:12:30) - The Boxer Multiplier & Pick n Pay's Zero-Valuation Problem
    • (00:15:15) - Fashion vs. Grocery & Shrinking Into Prosperity
    • (00:16:38) - Valuation Sensitivity: Why Quality Stocks Can See Share Price Slumps
    • (00:18:20) - Boxer & The Power Of The Discount Model
    • (00:19:38) - SPAR's Struggle: Can the Franchise Model Survive Omnichannel?
    • (00:22:17) - International Benchmarks: Comparing Walmart, Costco, and the UK’s Tesco
    • (00:26:35) - Conclusion
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    27 min
  • Magic Markets #259: Gold, Volatility and Asymmetrical Payoffs
    Feb 4 2026

    Can one hawkish Fed Chair nomination melt a golden bull’s wings? In this episode of Magic Markets, The Finance Ghost and Moe-Knows look at volatility, market overreactions, and how to hunt for asymmetry responsibly.

    On the macro side, Moe examines the recent gold price oscillations and explains why gold might be circling the rim of the ‘speculative’ bucket, while Ghost takes a micro look at some tips for sniffing out asymmetrical returns.

    Join our hosts as they dive for treasure in the ‘too hard’ pile of the JSE, reminisce about the 2008 ArcelorMittal share price, and look at LVMH, Netflix and Mr Price as examples of stocks that have fallen sharply from peaks.

    Today’s Topics:

    • Why the nomination of a surprisingly hawkish Fed Chair sent the gold price plummeting.
    • How retail speculation is making gold behave more like crypto – and what it might mean for you.
    • How a VC mindset and an understanding of asymmetrical returns might help you build a high-risk equity basket that doesn't blow up your core portfolio.
    • What names like Netflix and Mr Price can teach us about opportunities after extreme market reactions.

    Get in touch:

    • The Magic Markets Website
    • @MagicMarketsPod, @FinanceGhost, and @MohammedNalla (all on X)
    • Pop us a note on LinkedIn

    Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Please speak to your personal financial advisor.

    Chapters
    • (00:00:00) - Introduction: Market Psychology and the State of Gold
    • (00:01:46) - Kevin Warsh: Why the Fed Chair Nomination Spooked Markets
    • (00:03:41) - Is Gold the New Crypto? Retail Speculation and Volatility
    • (00:06:13) - The Resources Rally: Why the Satrix RESI Is Still Up YTD
    • (00:08:33) - Megatrends and Market Tops: Lessons From LVMH and 2023
    • (00:11:16) - Optionality & Sniffing Out Asymmetrical Payoffs
    • (00:16:10) - The Venture Capitalist Mindset: Building a High-Risk Speculation Basket
    • (00:19:36) - The "Too Hard" Pile: Finding Asymmetry in Accelerate and PPC
    • (00:22:47) - Taking A Gamble On Low-Ticket Stocks & ArcelorMittal
    • (00:24:01) - Buying the Dip: Mr Price, Netflix, and Eating Our Own Cooking
    • (00:25:36) - Conclusion & How to Get in Touch
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    26 min
  • Magic Markets #258: Stock Picking in Emerging Markets
    Jan 28 2026

    In a week where the gold price soared to new heights and the rand flexed impressively against the dollar, The Finance Ghost and Moe-Knows have turned their focus to the high-stakes world of emerging markets. But as global indicators flash green, is it as simple as buying the $EEM?

    In this episode, Moe breaks down the macro recipe for a sustainable emerging markets rally and why South Africa might be in the sweet spot of a global rotation right now. He warns against ‘betting the farm’ on emerging markets overall, highlighting the wisdom of being highly selective in where you place your capital.

    Ghost brings the conversation a little closer to home. He explores whether macro wins filter down to individual companies, with MTN as a great example of how a stock in South Africa can reflect the dollar realities. He also deals with the recent Clicks and Cashbuild performance and the jitters in the South African consumer story.

    This week's topics:

    • The emerging market rotation: A global investment view on developed vs. emerging markets.
    • The three pillars of an emerging market rally: Understanding the essential roles of a softer dollar, easier interest rates, and the electrification-led commodity surge.
    • MTN as a currency proxy: A clever way to play frontier market currency shifts through a telecom giant.
    • The Clicks and Cashbuild conundrum: Why falling inflation and record Black Friday sales aren't translating into volume growth for SA retailers.
    • Yield vs. growth: Why South Africa remains a carry trade destination for bonds, even while the consumer economy faces structural pressure.

    Get in touch:

    • The Magic Markets Website
    • @MagicMarketsPod, @FinanceGhost, and @MohammedNalla (all on X)
    • Pop us a note on LinkedIn

    Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Please speak to your personal financial advisor.

    Chapters
    • (00:00:00) - Introduction: Psychological Milestones and the Emerging Markets Theme
    • (00:01:22) - Timing the Rotation: Why Emerging Markets Are Outperforming the S&P 500
    • (00:03:51) - The MTN Strategy: Playing Frontier Currencies Via Telcos
    • (00:06:06) - Attributing the Move: Is the Rand at Fair Value?
    • (00:10:16) - The Nuance of Valuation: India vs. South Africa
    • (00:12:06) - Phases of Rotations: Moving From Price Impact to Flow
    • (00:14:45) - What We Can Learn from Clicks and Cashbuild
    • (00:19:38) - The Yield-Seeking Destination: South African Bonds vs. Growth Equities
    • (00:21:28) - Geopolitics and De-Risking: Why LatAm Has Been Shooting the Lights Out
    • (00:22:49) - Conclusion: Diversifying Your Emerging Market Exposure
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    24 min
  • Magic Markets #257: Investing in Copper with Mesh.Trade
    Jan 21 2026

    While global superpowers eye new territories for mineral wealth and the likes of Glencore and Rio Tinto dance around a potential merger, investors are looking at the most versatile commodity around in 2026: copper. This critical transition metal has captured the imagination of corporate advisors and retail investors alike.

    In this episode of Magic Markets, The Finance Ghost and Moe-Knows are joined by Connie Bloem, Managing Director of Mesh.Trade, to discuss why direct-exposure copper is the missing link in most portfolios – and how a token can help you get it.

    Ghost, Moe and Connie unpack the electrification and data-centre themes, the challenges of institutional vs. retail portfolios, and why copper is one hot metal (in more ways than one).

    Today’s Topics:

    • Why you can't talk about data centres or the AI revolution without talking about copper infrastructure, with thoughts around the future of electrification and the role of copper.
    • Why direct-exposure commodity tokens might be a better portfolio ‘anchor’ than mining equities.
    • How to invest in a metal that costs $13,000 per tonne with as little as R50 through Mesh's offering.
    • How a digital token can solve the vaulting, deposit, and theft problems of copper for retail investors.

    Get In Touch:

    • Visit the Mesh.Trade website at www.mesh.trade
    • Reach out to Mesh on X: @Mesh_Trade
    • Connect with Connie Bloem on LinkedIn

    Reach out to us on X: @MagicMarketsPod, @FinanceGhost and @MohammedNalla or pop us a note on LinkedIn.

    Check Out Our Other Conversations With Mesh.Trade:

    • Magic Markets #204: Blockchain Technology in Financial Markets (with AnBro and Mesh.trade)
    • Magic Markets #214: Tradition meets tech – buying gold on the blockchain
    • Magic Markets #221: Mesh.Trade – Unlocking Private Markets
    • Magic Markets #228: Mesh.Trade and the Titans
    • Magic Markets #238: Stablecoins with Mesh.Trade
    • Magic Markets #247: Investing in Property with Mesh.Trade and 27four

    Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not financial or investment advice. Please speak to your personal financial advisor.

    Chapters
    • (00:00:00) - Introduction: Megamergers & the Copper Craze
    • (00:01:47) - Gold, Silver, & Will the Mesh Midas Touch Extend to Copper?
    • (00:03:40) - Why Copper, Why Now?
    • (00:06:13) - The Private Market: Where South Africa’s Growth Is Hiding
    • (00:08:45) - Reality Check: Electrification & the Role of PGMs
    • (00:10:06) - Direct Commodities vs. Mining Equities: Cutting Through the Noise
    • (00:12:34) - Institutional Investor Barriers: Why Retail Investors Have an Advantage
    • (00:19:38) - The Logistics of Copper: Storage, Theft, & Deposits
    • (00:24:36) - To the Seventh Decimal: How to Invest in Copper With R50
    • (00:26:14) - What’s Next for Mesh
    • (00:27:41) - Conclusion & How to Get in Touch
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    29 min
  • Magic Markets #255: Setting the Scene for 2026
    Jan 7 2026

    With a new calendar on the wall, there's a lot to consider this year. The world doesn’t behave the same way that our calendars do, with the themes and risks of 2025 bleeding into 2026.

    Aside from the obvious (like AI), what can we learn from some of the best-performing sectors in the final quarter of 2025 and over the past 12 months? What regional outlooks are relevant? And perhaps most importantly for most Magic Markets listeners, what does this mean for the rand and the potential for SA Inc. stocks to have a strong year?

    It’s time for a new year in the markets and the implementation of strategies to create wealth. Welcome back to Magic Markets and thanks for being here with us!

    This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not financial or investment advice. Please speak to your personal financial advisor.

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    30 min