Nadia and Rob welcome investor, advisor, and founder Sofia Haq to talk about the responsibilities of speaking out as a leader, building great companies, and how she sustains herself while running several ventures. But first, they check in on Amazon's poor communication in their latest round of layoffs and how Minnesota CEOs responded to the killing of Alex Preeti. Later, Rob rants about a terrible Anthropology department and Nadia applauds Walmart's unsolicited pay raises for pharmacy techs.

Connect with us: Visit www.nazconsultants.com to learn more about Dr. Nadia Butt’s work in leadership, culture, and organizational effectiveness, and check out http://www.tekanoconsulting.com/ to explore Rob Hadley’s approach to data-driven inclusive strategy.

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https://www.instagram.com/sofia__haq/

https://www.tiktok.com/@sofiahaq

https://www.linkedin.com/in/sofiahaq/

https://sofiahaq.com/

https://www.muslimwomenprofessionals.org/

https://slauson.co/

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This week, Nadia hosts solo while Rob is away, revisiting a powerful interview she and Rob recorded with Paolo Gaudiano. The conversation explores why equity and meritocracy are not opposites, but incomplete views of the same system and how leaders can move beyond ideology to design fair, high-performing organizations. Stick around as Nadia also shares a personal surprise at the end of the episode.

Find season 5 episode transcripts here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bP3N6QYBG0UkzdRm5GwiFfoQLvGtIRrK?usp=sharing

Connect with Paolo:

https://aleria.tech

https://linkedin.com/in/pgaudiano

Measuring Inclusion: https://amazon.com/dp/178860606X

Meritocracy (due out 6/9/26): https://www.amazon.com/dp/1788609433

Paolo's TED speaker page: https://ted.com/speakers/paolo_gaudiano

Connect with us: Visit www.nazconsultants.com to learn more about Dr. Nadia Butt’s work in leadership, culture, and organizational effectiveness, and check out http://www.tekanoconsulting.com/ to explore Rob Hadley’s approach to data-driven inclusive strategy.

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We kick off 2026 with Nadia and Rob's take-it-to-the-bank predictions for workplace culture. See if they can continue their streak of 100% correct predictions as they discuss leadership in 2026, litigious DEI, the seeds of a DEI comeback, AI compliance issues, and private/pubic bipartisan support for child and elder care.

Find season 5 episode transcripts here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bP3N6QYBG0UkzdRm5GwiFfoQLvGtIRrK?usp=sharing

Connect with us: Visit www.nazconsultants.com to learn more about Dr. Nadia Butt’s work in leadership, culture, and organizational effectiveness, and check out http://www.tekanoconsulting.com/ to explore Rob Hadley’s approach to data-driven inclusive strategy.

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Dana Weekes, host of The Rest of Us podcast, joins Nadia and Rob to help us see signs of burnout culture and to share strategies for leaders to help fix it. Nadia and Rob also reflect on a Wall Street Journal story about conservative women opting for kids earlier in their career and a Campbell's soup exec is recorded disparaging the company's customers and products. Later, the rare double rant! Nadia rants about the US Coast Guards tolerance of hate symbols and Rob points to the consequences for communities from the (not so) Beautiful Bill.

Articles referenced in the show:

https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/careers/conservative-women-career-kids-bc3094f9?mod=careers_news_article_pos1https://www.wsj.com/sports/basketball/nico-harrison-dallas-mavericks-fired-

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/25/campbell-soup-executive-comments

Connect with Dana: Instagram: @danatenilleweekes; @therestofus.podcastLinkedIn: Dana T. WeekesThrive Architects - www.thethrivearch.com Listen to The Rest of Us with Dana Tenille Weekes

Find season 5 episode transcripts here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bP3N6QYBG0UkzdRm5GwiFfoQLvGtIRrK?usp=sharing

Connect with us: Visit www.nazconsultants.com to learn more about Dr. Nadia Butt’s work in leadership, culture, and organizational effectiveness, and check out http://www.tekanoconsulting.com/ to explore Rob Hadley’s approach to data-driven inclusive strategy.

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Employee Experience expert Dr. Nicole Boyko joins Nadia and Rob to share how companies are working to understand belonging now, how she helps leaders see themselves in survey results, and why companies have to listen to employees continuously. Nadia and Rob also break down a Mercer report on how leaders are missing the mark in AI communications and highlight an NBA executive's risky move that ended in disaster. Later, Nadia rants about the darker side of the rhetoric around Zohran Mamdani's election victory, and Rob sends Veteran's Day best wishes.

Articles referenced in the show:

https://www.hrdive.com/news/leadership-vacuum-prompts-ai-anxiety-at-work/805113/

https://www.wsj.com/sports/basketball/nico-harrison-dallas-mavericks-fired-luka-doncic-trade-ea81e8e7?mod=sports_lead_pos2

Find season 5 episode transcripts here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bP3N6QYBG0UkzdRm5GwiFfoQLvGtIRrK?usp=sharing

Connect with us: Visit www.nazconsultants.com to learn more about Dr. Nadia Butt’s work in leadership, culture, and organizational effectiveness, and check out http://www.tekanoconsulting.com/ to explore Rob Hadley’s approach to data-driven inclusive strategy.

Dr. Golnaz Golnaraghi joins Nadia and Rob to talk about why trust is the new ROI, the importance of listening, and why command leadership can't drive innovation. Also, Nadia and Rob break down SHRM's "Listening Across Lines" DEI debate between Van Jones and Robby Starbuck. Plus Rob rants about and Nadia raves about...

Learn more about the topics discussed in the episode today:

SHRM Conversation: https://www.linkedin.com/events/shrmblueprint-leadingacrossline7386401327033102336/

Connect with Dr. Golnaz Golnaraghi:https://golnazgolnaraghi.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/ggolnaraghi/Learn more about Accelerate Her Future:https://accelerateherfuture.com/https://www.linkedin.com/company/accelerate-her-future/

Find season 5 episode transcripts here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bP3N6QYBG0UkzdRm5GwiFfoQLvGtIRrK?usp=sharing

Connect with us: Visit www.nazconsultants.com to learn more about Dr. Nadia Butt’s work in leadership, culture, and organizational effectiveness, and check out http://www.tekanoconsulting.com/ to explore Rob Hadley’s approach to data-driven inclusive strategy.

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The Inclusive Collective team returns to bring you Season 5: Leadership & Innovation Unlocked! ⁠Dr. Nadia Butt⁠ and ⁠Rob Hadley⁠ are back with fresh takes on what’s shaping the modern workplace. This week, ⁠Google tightens remote work policies⁠ and ⁠Toyota brings childcare to rural Iowa⁠. They'll also answer listener questions about generational divides at work, navigating uncertainty, and how to assess and drive accountability.

Find season 5 episode transcripts here

Connect with us: Visit www.nazconsultants.com to learn more about Dr. Nadia Butt’s work in leadership, culture, and organizational effectiveness, and check out http://www.tekanoconsulting.com/ to explore Rob Hadley’s approach to data-driven inclusive strategy.

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