Honor isn’t outdated—it’s essential. In this episode of Lead to Win, Pastor Jeff Little sits down with Earl McClellan to explore why honor is one of the most overlooked—and most powerful—forces in leadership today.

They unpack how honor shapes culture, strengthens trust, and determines whether teams thrive or fracture under pressure. You’ll hear practical insights on leading with humility, honoring people even when it’s difficult, and building environments where respect fuels growth.

This conversation will challenge the way you lead—and remind you why honor always matters.

TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Cold Open And Defining Friendship
2:56 - The Box Lunch Revival Story
5:10 - Laughter, Men’s Event, And Influence
9:20 - Parenting Wisdom And Roles At Home
13:15 - Culture Over Strategy And Tone
19:30 - Receiving Honor Without Pride
25:05 - Laying Down Crowns And Guardrails
30:40 - Jesus-Centered Leadership And Discipleship
36:20 - Seeds Of Honor From A Single-Mom Story
42:10 - Formative Years As An Executive Pastor
48:05 - Timing, Submission, And Leaving Well
54:40 - The Real Test: Character Over Platform
1:01:20 - Biggest Surprise Of Senior Leadership
1:07:10 - Growth, Grit, And Eternal Stakes
1:14:00 - Humor, Style, And Closing Commitments

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What an honor it was to sit down with Brooke Ligertwood at this year's Leaders Gathering. In this conversation, she shares her personal story of encountering God through worship, why she believes worship is first and foremost for God’s glory, and how a life rooted in Scripture and prayer shapes everything we offer publicly. Together, Pastor Jeff & Brooke explore the partnership between pastors and worship leaders, the importance of stewarding people well, and how cultivating a strong inner life sustains long-term leadership.

This episode is powerful, we promise you aren't going to want to miss it! Whether you’re a pastor, worship leader, or ministry leader, this conversation will encourage you to lead with depth, humility, and devotion to Jesus.

TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - From Conference To Conversation
0:54 - Worship’s Purpose And Brooke’s Conversion
3:37 - Songs That Carry Theology
6:16 - Writing From Scripture And Warfare
8:16 - A Generational Vision For Worship
10:23 - Pastoring Worship Teams Well
12:25 - Teaching The Hidden Life
15:31 - Guarding The Stage And Hearts
16:20 - Closing Thanks And Subscriber Ask

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In this episode, Pastor Jeff Little and Pastor Mark Francey dive deep into the process behind every leader’s breakthrough—from the decades of formation you don’t see to the moments of obedience that unlock supernatural authority. Pastor Mark reveals why being sent is different than simply going, how leaders can minister to high-capacity people, and why rushing your calling can do more harm than good.

If you’ve ever wondered when to move, how to wait, or what spiritual authority really looks like, this conversation will bring clarity, courage, and faith for your next step.

TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Redefining Riches And Pastoral Value
8:20 - Calling To Pastor The “Up And Out”
15:20 - Oceans Church Origin Story
27:00 - Vision, Dream, And Statewide Baptisms
37:00 - Timing, Process, And Being Sent

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