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Lead & Follow

Lead & Follow

De : Sharna Fabiano
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Lead & Follow offers a candid discussion of teamwork, collaboration, and professional development. Host Sharna Fabiano talks with scholars, educators, and artists to explore the relational dance between leadership and followership, and how to become excellent in both roles.

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  • Followership at the FDIC, Executive Assistants, and Responsible Global Followership – Basil Read
    Jun 5 2026

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    Dr. Basil Read shares his work creating a comprehensive leadership curriculum for the FDIC which included followership, plus his research on the influential followership role played by executive assistants, and about his current work exploring responsible global followership and global citizenship. Basil is a retired US Navy Captain, Consultant and a Professor of Practice in Troy University’s PhD in global leadership program.

    • “Followership is engaging with the leader in a way that produces the best possible outcome.”
    • “Responsible global followership is engaging with the world around us to come up with the best possible outcome.”
    • “It’s a choice whether to engage, and it's a choice how you engage.”

    Episode References

    J. Basil Read, III, “Followership at the FDIC: A Case Study”
    https://www.emerald.com/jole/article-pdf/13/4/136/10069009/v13_i4_c14.pdf

    Ira Chaleff, The Courageous Follower
    https://irachaleffauthor.com/


    Connect with Basil Read
    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/j-basil-read-iii-ph-d-a1274b23/


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    41 min
  • New Territory for Leadership and Followership – Robert Kelley
    May 20 2026

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    Dr. Robert Kelley shares his current thinking on citizen-level followership in an environment of authoritarian politics, as well as a few observations of how both business teams and community groups are moving beyond leader-follower structures to get things done.

    Robert Kelley is a Distinguished Service Professor of Management at the Tepper School of Business at Carnegie Mellon University. He pioneered the concept of "Followership" in his best-selling book The Power of Followership and his Harvard Business Review article "In Praise of Followers" (a top 25 best-selling reprint for HBR) which changed the prevailing view of leadership. Another one of Robert’s books, How to Be a Star at Work, was honored as one of "The 100 Best Business Books of All Time" and the #1 career book by the New York Daily News. As President of CEO Consulting LLC, Dr. Kelley helps national and international clients, like AT&T and Bosch, and consults with government officials and executives across the globe from the USA to China to the EU.

    • “When we think as followers, is our major responsibility to be a guardrail, to help keep the leader from making mistakes, or is our job to enable the leader to do whatever the leader wants to do?”
    • “Maybe leadership has run its course in terms of a societal institution.”
    • “I think we’re testing out new models of how humans get things done together.”

    Episode References

    Strongmen, Ruth Ben-Ghiat

    Connect with Robert Kelley

    www.kelleyideas.com

    Carnegie Mellon University


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    https://www.sharnafabiano.com

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    41 min
  • Co-Creating Psychological Safety - Kinsey Hansen
    Apr 26 2026

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    Dr. Kinsey Hansen shares her research on the co-construction of psychological safety among leaders and followers in organizations, and gives real world tips on how she’s been integrating followership into her leadership courses.

    Kinsey is an Associate Professor at Angelo State University, where she serves as Program Coordinator for the Master of Arts in Administrative Leadership and teaches in the Student Development and Leadership program. She is part of the team that designed and launched ASU's Doctorate of Education in Transformative Leadership, contributing to its structure, curriculum development, and now serving as a dissertation chair. With a career spanning community college and university leadership, Kinsey brings both scholarly expertise and deep practitioner experience to her work

    • “Followers shape culture every single day through the choices that they make.”
    • “For leaders, the most powerful thing you can do is model followership in your own upward relationships.”
    • “What teaches people whether it’s safe to speak up is what happened to the last person that spoke up.”
    • “It’s powerful when the student sees the relational nature of the dynamic and identifies just how much followers shape leadership”
    • “Once students see that followers influence leaders, they can’t unsee it.”

    Episode References

    Amy Edmondson, The Fearless Organization

    Amy Edmondson, Teaming

    Global Followership Conference


    Connect with Kinsey Hansen
    Angelo State University


    Support the show

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    https://www.sharnafabiano.com

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    37 min
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