What does financing a sustainable economy look like in reality? In this episode, Dr Rhian-Mari Thomas, CEO of the Green Finance Institute (GFI), joins Jane Goodland to share examples of GFI’s first-of-a-kind-transactions and explore how to bridge the “transactions to transitions” gap. Rhian-Mari sets out GFI’s view of the need for granular sector-transition policy frameworks, and how more coordination across government, finance and industry can turn single transactions into sectoral transition at scale.

• (00:00:00) - Rhian's career before the Green Finance Institute
• (00:02:40) - GFI's mission
• (00:05:20) - International work
• (00:07:55) - The transactions to transitions gap
• (00:13:13) - Sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) case study
• (00:16:19) - Scaling first-of-a kind transactions
• (00:22:17) - Key takeaways for future focus

Water is becoming one of the most contested resources on the planet, with far‑reaching implications for economies, businesses and investors. Jane Goodland speaks with Franck Gbaguidi from Eurasia Group about the rise of the “water weapon”, how weak water governance is intensifying competition, and what companies and governments can do to manage growing water‑related risk.

• (00:00:00) - Welcome and guest introduction
• (00:01:15) - Eurasia's Top Risks 2026 report
• (00:02:00) - The importance of international water governance
• (00:04:43) - Unpacking water scarcity: Competition and managing disputes
• (00:06:50) - Where water is being weaponised
• (00:09:41) - The economic impact
• (00:13:40) - Water infrastructure
• (00:16:36) - Could costs change for water-intensive companies?
• (00:17:40) - Water offsetting and sharing
• (00:19:50) - Measuring water
• (00:24:10) - Advice for businesses

What does responsible leadership look like in practice? Sir Mark Moody‑Stuart is a distinguished business leader and former geologist who has held senior leadership and board roles at some of the world's largest organisations including Shell, Anglo American, Saudi Aramco and HSBC. Sitting down with Jane Goodland, he reflects on how his experience serving on boards and engaging with governments has shaped his views on ethical leadership, the role of multilateral frameworks in today’s changing geopolitical landscape, and how open conversations between business, civil society and governments can create long‑term value.

• (00:00:00) - Introduction
• (00:01:11) - How Sir Mark Moody-Stuart's interest in sustainability began
• (00:03:05) - Responsible leadership: Sir Mark's experience at Shell
• (00:08:28) - Value vs. reputation: Conversations in the boardroom
• (00:10:11) - The role of governments, companies and civil societies
• (00:12:33) - Engaging with governments and civil societies
• (00:16:15) - China: A different approach to sustainability
• (00:18:23) - Advice for business leaders
• (00:19:20) - A practical example: Sudan, Amnesty International and acting responsibly